Re: The Universe Isn't Infinite


T Wake wrote:
> "Morituri-|-Max" <newage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:c5g8e.9947$AE6.2159@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Aighghghghhhhh!
> >
> > That finally sunk in for me... BOING! or D'Oh!
> >
> > Thanks TWake.
> >
> > So basically any point in the universe can see 13x10^9 LY in any
direction
> > which might lead one to say that it COULD effectively be infinite
in size.
> > Maybe. At least as far as any poor schmuck is concerned who tries
to go
> > to the edge of the universe and ends up back home.
> >
>
> Well this can be contentious. The general theory in physics is that
no one
> place is "special" - which means that what can be seen from Earth is
pretty
> much the same as what can be seen from any other point in space. This

> implies that where ever you are in the universe you can see 13x10^9
ly in
> every direction which, as you say can imply the universe is infinite
- or it
> can imply that the curved universe means it folds back on itself.
>
> Personally, (and will everyone please note this is a personal opinion
- not
> a troll or attempt to stamp my belief on the internet! :-) ) I go
with the
> infinite universe theory. If the universe was curved back on itself
then we,
> by definition, would have to be at a "special" point in space which
goes
> against the grain a bit. However, I am happy to accept I am totally
wrong if
> someone can show me some evidence to the contrary. Or, for example,
the
> universe could be just a bit bigger than we can see which is why we
cant
> look at the "back of our heads" by staring in one direction for long
enough.
>
> Also, getting back to Nick - the term infinite has no set value.
Something
> very, very small can be infinite simply because it has no end. Even
your
> (Nicks) statements lead to the "future is infinite" which implies
time is
> infinite. Time also had a start point (along with the big bang) and
has
> expanded ever since. Therefore there must have been a "point" at
which time
> was very small, yet also infinite. Does this make sense?
No.
You have the fantasy of there being another universe beyond
some boundary. That is your faith and that don't cut it!!!
All you have is your imagination!

The universe started at a point a finite time ago.
There is nothing else.

.

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