Re: The physics of [GPS] music.

hanson wrote: 
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[Tom Potter]

tdp1001@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

GTR is NOT essential to the GPS system 

[Sam Wormley]

On a sunny day it happened Sam Wormley
<swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in <_h%8e.902$c24.376@attbi_s72>:

Potter, is wrong here, as GTR is an integral part of GPS. 

[Jan Panteltje]

Wrong, they allowed for a big correction factor in the electronics.
Because they were UNSURE.
The corrections happen.
That does not prove GTR at work.


[GR_Varney]

Oh joy, Jan is a member of the GR ignorant morons that infest Usenet.


[hanson]
.... ahahaha... Mikey, it is great to crank folks for cranking's sake
at this great and hilariously mad 24/7 cyber party. But in the real
world it turns out that both sides (above) are right on this hotly
debated issue. GPS was planned, developed, manufactured,
deployed and tested WITHOUT the use (nor need) for SR or GR.
Only later as GPS sophistication grew, the teacher community got
wind of it, and the GPS Sales departments saw promotional value
in it did the mania of promoting GPS via Relativity grow which then
subsequently infested the Usenet. -- Dr. Eric Prebys of Fermi National
Accelerator Laboratory posted the following on this issue on 01 which
corroborates that in the early phase of GPS operations NO relativistic
calculations where involved or used; Eric saying: "the military types
were skeptical of this 'relativity thing' and insisted that the GPS
have an option to turn off these corrections in case they turned
out to be wrong."

So because the military does not understand GR and its effects on the accuracy of GPS, that means that there are no effects?



-- I hope you don't classify Eric as one of the
GR ignorant morons that infest Usenet, because he let the cat
out of the bag.

Since I don't know who he is, and have not read what he said, I reserve judgment.

Also, it is easy to show that no relativistic calcs are needed for
the "famaous" 38 microsec delay:


Only to the GR ignorant.


m_e/h * 2G/c^2    .........  4.4E-10 s/s
m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400 .....  38  microsec/day
where m_e = mass of earth and h being the Space vehicle
height above the earth surface (of radius r_e), and
T being the 12 hrs observation period,
relating to h = ([G m_e/(4 pi^2)]* T^2)^(1/3) - r_e

...AND SO THE BEAT GOES ON...buried under the deafening noise
of the steamroller of history... Yep, noisy as ever! * COOL! *,
but.... Let'em sing!... All of'em... It's a beautiful choir!... ahaha...
AHAHAHAH.........ahahahaha....­.ahahahanson


Umm... whatever.
I must assume from your post that you are ignorant in GR.
However, the question now is: "Can you cure your ignorance?"

Do some reading, then get back to me.
.

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