Re: Protons & electrons attractions


Classix wrote:
> Watclod wrote:
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > Watclod wrote:
> > > > Can anyone give the best descriptions or layman explanations
> > > > why electrons don't fall into the protons.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Probably the best reference for more information on this (though
it
> > is
> > > pretty tough sledding) is PW Atkins' "Molecular Quantum
Mechanics."
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/section/New_and_Exciting_Physics/Inside_the_Atom/968623363.htm
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=why+electrons+don%27t+fall+into+the+nucleus
> >
> > Interesting site especially the first. The explanations why
electrons
> > don't fall into the nucleus is a bit out of the ordinary. No wonder
> > there are 101 other interpretations being offered by crackpots.
>
> Not in this thread (so far, anyway). You've been told twice that's
it's
> the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. That's the reason.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty principle was created originally to describe
the
fact that when you use probe to touch the electron. It changes the
position
or momentum or you can't know either. Now people apply it even to
quantum
tunnelling or to the big bang by saying that when no one is looking,
nature
can cheat courtesy of the HUP. It is a common explanation that virtual
particles can exist because courtesy of the HUP, nature can cheat and
seemingly violate the law of conservation of energy by borrowing some
energy
from nothing and returning it. Doesnt it sound silly and unnatural.

Wat

>
> > Anyway. How come when the electron cloud squashes closer to the
> > nucleus, the kinetic energy goes up as described by the following:
>
> Google Coulomb Interaction and try thinking for a change.

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