Re: Questions for all Alternative Atomic Modelers



p6 wrote:
> There is a avalanche of people with new atomic models such as
> John Sefton, Y.Porat, Seto, Thomson, Dr. Yoon, Mccutcheon,
> EL, Mr. Smart Model, RP, etc.
>
> To these people. There are two things I'd like to know and hope
> you can comment as it bugs me a lot whenever I read your stuff.
>
> 1. First, if the current atomic model is not right. How come they
> were able to successfully detonate a nuke in the Manhattan Project
> at first try.

OK, I'm game. I've got an alternative atomic model. See it at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/frankhu/buildatm.htm

Making an atomic bomb didn't require an in depth understanding of the
structure of the atom. Slapping two pieces of enriched uranium together
is more of a physical rather than physics problem.

>
> 2. Second let's talk about Bohr and deBroglie. Let me give a
> brief history of QM so you alternative modelers can point out
> what went wrong halfway in its development.

OK, admittedly, the answers I'm about to give are half-baked at best,
but here goes....

The primary reason why QM models of the atom work is because they
largely based upon the analysis of the spectra of atoms in the ionized
state. It is assumed that that when the atom is in the un-ionized
state, that it retains the electron orbitals, however, this is not
necessarily the case. I would claim that QM cannot say much about the
non-ionized state of the atom and that it is compatible with any atomic
model which assumes that the electron/protons/neutrons all fall back
into a ball when it is in the netural state. This is what the cubic
atomic model presumes. In particular the Schrodinger Equation is based
upon spherical harmonics which describe the motion of a particle around
an attracting source. It is accurate for at least the angular parts of
the equation. I would think that most spectrally important observations
come from only the outermost radial electrons, so the radial component
may not be very important.

I would also say that the descrete wavelengths and energies you mention
are due to the quantization of space. This means that a particle cannot
take any arbitrary position, but can only move a quanta of distance at
a time. I would presume this distance is equal to h.

In conclusion, I would say that QM and everything it has to say about
spectra is absolutely correct in describing the activity of electrons
around an ionzied atom. However, I don't think it specifically supports
the idea that the nucleus is a tiny speck which only contains
protons/neutrons. Whether the nucleus is big or large makes little
difference to the electrons since the attraction of an electron to the
nucleus only depends on the charge, not the radius. Electrostatic law
states that charges act as if all of their charge was concentrated at
its center. So this is how QM can be totally correct in one way, but
utterly wrong in describing the real atomic structure.
fhucubic

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