Re: If a PHoton has no electric charge how does it create the EM field ?


Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote:
> TomGee wrote:
> > Bjoern, I see you still don't quite understand what you're saying.
>
> You are not in the position to judge that.
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>
I am but you're not.
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> > A math construct is not real like photons so photons cannot be a
> > "mathematical representation" of anything fictional.
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> Photons are not merely "math constructs".
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That's what I said. See, you're still confused.
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> > You're confused because you halfway believe in that theory but not
> > completely.
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> Hogwash.
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> > Good, you're learning. The theory is that em fields exist
> > in the vacuum of space.
>
> That's not a theory, that's a fact.
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>
Oops1 I guess that was just a fluke - you're not really learning. You
still cannot distinguish between fact and theory.
>
>
> > Just an idea, with no other support for it
> > than the explanation that em radiation exists and that it appears to
> > exist independent of matter.
>
> That's not an explanation, that's also a fact.
>
>
Apparently, you don't know what a fact is: "truth or reality of
something: the truth or actual existence of something, as opposed to
the supposition of something or a belief about something" Microsoft®
Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation.
All rights reserved.
>
>
> > Never mind that E=mc^2 infers energy and mass to be independent.
> > That must be wrong since we see no mass where we see emr.
>
> Man, you really have not the *faintest* clue what you are talking about.
>
>
I keep forgetting that you have no clue about sarcasm either.
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>
> <http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html>
> <http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html>
>
> Unfortunately, you are too dumb to understand these explanations.
>
>
> > So, since you cannot overthrow the mass/energy
> > conservation principle nor E=mc^2, just ignore them
>
> This is not ignored in the least. Just properly applied.
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So you say, but I disagree.
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>
> > and enjoy the magic of "quantum vacuum fluctuations".
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> There is nothing magical about that.
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Sure there is, because that is the name given to an effect the basis of
which you have not yet discovered. Thus, that is a concept, a theory,
of the cause of an effect and since you have no better conclusion as to
the cause for it other than math constructs, it's just pure magic.
>
>
> And this has little to nothing
> to do with the question if and how E=mc^2 applies to electromagnetic
> radiation.
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>
That's your opinion, mine is that both E=mc^2 and the Principle of
Mass/energy Conservation say otherwise. Both assert interdependence
between mas and energy so that your massless energetic photon ignores
them both. Doesn't overthrow them, just ignores them with a little
trick using momentum to explain how a magical photon can move without
an explanation. My model explains all that, but you refuse to see it
or to accept it as a better explanation. I can only lead you to the
truth; I cannot make you believe it.
>
>
> > If you weren't so stubborn,
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> There was a saying about a pot and a kettle...
>
>
> > you could agree with me that photons are
> > created by energy waves colliding with latent photon particles (Dark
> > Matter) as they propagate through space.
>
> Word salad.
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>
Not my fault you can't grasp plain English words and phrases, Bjoern.
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> > Mine is a much better explanation
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> ROTFL!
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Just don't forget that he who laughs last laughs best!
>
>
> > than that of the supernatural "em fields".
>
> "supernatural"???
>
>
Hung up on that term? "relating or attributed to phenomena that cannot
be explained by natural laws" Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library
2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

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