Re: Hole/Handle Invariants Via Probable Influence
- From: "OsherD" <mdoctorow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 9 Sep 2005 23:44:33 -0700
>>From Osher Doctorow
But if Einstein believed in simplicity and if simplicity of control of
forces directionally is key to probable causation/influence, then we
have a rather curious problem because Einstein also appears to have
believed in causation - much more than many of the quantum theorists at
least formally for the latter.
So we come back to Einstein's "God does not play dice," and to the
rather surprising question of whether Einstein did not really believe
this or whether, on the contrary, it was a "riddle" of his as deep as
Pierre de Fermat's Last Theorem.
You see, dice are a very curious special case of probability
characterized (at least for non-loaded dice) by statistical
independence. But statistical independence is arguably a very low
level of causation.
Could Einstein have lied about his whole view of probability? Yes.
The fact that he was one of the inventors of the concept of the quantum
(although he didn't take it as far as Bohr and Schrodinger and Prince
de Broglie) suggests that he may have known what was going on in the
quantum world. His friendship with Schrodinger - arguably his
strongest academic friendship, although Kurt Godel was perhaps second -
suggests that he accepted quantum mechanics. His recognition of
"quantum strangeness" suggests that he was one of the first to
recognize serious issues in quantum mechanics and quantum theory. I
remind readers that Kurt Godel's Godel fuzzy multivalued logic has the
probability analog of Probable/Statistical Independence. Godel
followed Einstein to Princeton's Institute.
Next question :>)
Osher Doctorow
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