Re: Independent/Dependent Phases



>>From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@xxxxxxxxxxx

Where is matter in all this, and what does it mean for the Universe to
"solve a problem?"

I think that the two questions may be related. One definition of the
microscopic or quantum "phase" or domain might be "that which can be
reached by contraction," while the macroscopic or
(modified/generalized) GR "phase" or macroscopic phase might be "that
which can be reached by expansion." I mention this in earlier
postings in various places (I'll have to look up where when I have
time).

So when the Universe did its first acceleration, perhaps it was
problem-solving in the sense of practicing expansion-contraction and
exploring its macroscopic and microscopic phases.

But if such an exploration and practice is even conceivable, what could
the Universe have learned that would satisfy it until the next major
acceleration so to speak? Arguably, it learned how to move, which
involves velocities and accelerations and some control of them
including "attention" to simplicity of control as an especially
important way to move.

But mass doesn't seem to be required for this. In fact, it's
positively a hinderance at both galactic/intergalactic and microscopic
scales in a certain sense. So the Universe learned that it didn't need
mass to move, and Sir Isaac Newton's inertial mass which resists change
of motion didn't stop the Universe.

Yet the Radiation-dominated era eventually turned into the
Matter-dominated era, and it is generally explained as condensation of
Matter with cooling of Temperature by expansion.

But what if this appearance of Matter which looks to us as though it
followed from geometric expansion was actually "Independent", and our
Universe is actually two Universes, one Nonmaterial Geometric-like and
Radiation-like, the other Material? This seems to us rather abstract
if not unmotivated, but suppose for a moment that it's true. How did
the Universe 1 (Nonmaterial) "experience" this in some not quite fully
lifelike sense? My guess is that it experienced a Problem, what Jauch
and Piron and Mackey in quantum logic called "question-and-answer" or
"yes-no" experiments.

>>From this viewpoint, the Universe did not "understand" or have
Knowledge/Semantic Information about its Universe 2 (Material)
"partner" or neighbor or whatever we should call it if it exists. So
it began preparing for a second acceleration, the most recent
acceleration of 3.7 to 6 billion years ago. That acceleration would
examine Independence versus Dependence, which makes most sense for a
Universe if there are two Universes instead of one. And in the
background so to speak was Causation versus Noncausation, whether we
ascribe them to respectively the Macroscopic versus Microscopic domains
or not (I don't, but who knows?). And Determinism vs Nondeterminism.


But there was one difference arguably from the first major
acceleration. Instead of more negative curvature, this time the
Universe accelerated via more positive Spherical curvature. So even in
exploring Independence vs Dependence, it was arguably paying
"attention" to having fewer holes and more Causation. Was its
"Microscopic dual" Universe paying more "attention" to having more
holes and less Causation during this time? Maybe or maybe not. It is
even conceivable that Matter itself is the Noncausal end of the
continuum whose Causal end is Nonmatter/Radiation/Geometry and that the
two Universes are not only two but in a sense "opposites". Then we
could have Knowledge or Semantic Information increasing even though
disorder in Matter or Syntactic Information or Entropy is increasing.
It's not all done by mirrors, but it just might all be done by
Independence versus Dependence.

Osher Doctorow

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