Re: Working Wrong Concepts

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx wrote:

Timo Nieminen <uqtniemi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx wrote:

How many scientists do you know who chafe at writing papers and
would much rather be in the labs doing the "real work"?

Writing papers is showing off. 

Not in our biz.  Our showing off is writing the code and running
it and not waving pages of ASCII under the nose.

In my biz, the papers _are_ the product. (Well, technically, the content of the papers is the product, but ...)


. People like to show off. 

Of course they do.  That's what I was talking about prefering
spending valuable time in the lab rather than writing about
what one did in the past.

.. In practice,
scientists try to palm off both the lab work _and_ the writing onto grad
students.


If that's the case, I'd never grow up to be scientist because
I would want to the lab work (but not the doc'ing).


Simple solution: perpetual RA (ie research assistant).

Are your kids satisfied with a 3-day long problem?  Or do
they want ones that take longer?

Not enough time available for more. 

Darn.  That was the case when I was going to lab classes.

. Also, then the effort would have been
excessive for the weight of the course.


Yea.  Doing the work is much more fun than setting in classes.
But that's my style.

Some students prefer sitting in classes, but that's cause they don't have to think until 3 days before the exam. Doing the work is where the learning happens, but learning is hard work and carefully avoided by many students.

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