Re: Brad Guth feeds the brown-nosed incest cloned clowns of usenet

tj Frazir (sci.physics only),
>Titanium iron oxide is royal blue.
>nasa missed the argon all together.
It seems that I keep finding those pesky word errors and thus a need to
update this reply, but then my GOOGLE Usenet goes into archive
melt-down and/or lock-down (damage-control) mode trying to keep up with
and/or to block my revisions. Thus I'm having even more time to further
revise.

In addition to all of the titanium, carbon/soot and iron deposits being
of such dark and somewhat rich element colors, plus rather physically
and electrostatic nasty as well as meters deep of hardly any surface
tension capability, it seems they also entirely missed the horrific
amounts of surface and atmospheric sodium, of there being so much
sodium that it still boils off by day to such an extent of creating and
sustaining the 14,000 km atmosphere that's having been well proven to
exist, enough sodium being extracted that a 900,000 km comet like trail
as blown by solar winds has been yet another hard-science matter of
fact.

There's so much salt associated with our moon that it leaves little
doubt that our moon was once upon a time offered as a much larger
sphere of an icy proto-moon, which should also account for why all of
those truly massive diameter craters were established as being so gosh
darn shallow, as though there was perhaps originally 262 km worth of
salty ice having protected the surface.

I tend to agree totally, that our NASA has been exactly the sort phony
baloney and perpetrated cold-war cloak on behalf of our MI6/NSA~CIA
daggers, as much as they were back in the beginning, and obviously
still are having to keep this to themselves, or else those men-in-black
start showing up. Our NASA is the "money laundering service" as well as
a primary disinformation resource of their having created and promoted
a vast array of spendy BBC/NOVA infomercials, thereby having snookered
the majority of humanity, many since having been dumbfounded to their
ultimate demise of what our perpetrated cold-war has managed to
deliver.

As you've known for decades and I have only recently accepted as far
too many scientific reasons as to why our NASA/Apollo folks never
walked upon our moon. It's entirely possible that we had managed to
briefly orbit the moon in person, whereas I'm talking about a loop once
around that nasty sucker and then getting the hell out of that TBI
dosage situation ASAP, but I also no longer believe we've managed a
safely deployed robotic deploymant upon our moon, other than for having
creating a few artificial craters upon such efforts having impacted
and/or their sinking out of sight like all of the superior robotic USSR
best efforts managed to achieve.

Accomplishing the to/from mission(s) of our NASA/Apollo program getting
ourselves into and out of the LL1/ME-L1 of the mutual gravity-well as
sort of the ultimate park-n-ride zone was entirely within our
capability of the day, and of having sent off the remainders of each
mission as to robotically orbiting the moon and of thereby obtaining
science and all of those terrific images from orbit and subsequently
having transferred those Kodak moments back to the LL1/ME-L1 zone was
also doable, as well as their having allowed each of the robotic flown
landers to attempt their landing upon but having eventually impacted
the moon were also the doable forms of what met the degree of proven
fly-by-rocket capability that we had to work with. There was nothing
that any human crew could have accomplished better at the efforts of
getting such technology deployed safely or otherwise upon the lunar
surface. A once around the moon as keeping a much greater loop distance
would also have been doable and within the brief TBI dosage specs of
what being exposed to what that nasty orb had to deliver, especially by
what's derived off the highly reactive solar illuminated side, although
of having been coasting within the LL1/ME-L1 zone would not have
required a come-home orbit of the moon, and apparently that's why
there's been such a continual taboo/nondisclosure with regards to folks
discussing anything about that nifty location, and of what such could
have been utilized for back then as well as for benefiting the
LSE-CM/ISS.

I'm thinking that at best our NASA/Apollo crew spent their time
coasting within a somewhat LL1/ME-L1 station-keeping mode as offered by
the mutual gravity-well that's somewhat of an interactive zone situated
roughly 60,000 km off the deck as remaining directly aligned with
Earth, sending their supposed fly-by-rocket lander in for accomplishing
those multiple orbits as unmanned, obviously having deployed itself via
remote command as for their attempting at getting this make-do and R&D
as-built equipment onto the surface where each of those efforts
essentially impacted because we had not devised a safe fly-by-rocket
lander that could have safely managed the task, much less protected the
crew from the absolutely horrific levels of secondary/recoil hard-X-ray
dosage, nor even offering sufficient physical protection. There's also
the little matter of their "CHAPEL BELL" signal transponder that
shouldn't have been necessary if we were actually walking upon the
surface. There's also their very own unfiltered Kodak moments that
simply have not represented the raw surface, nor as having to survive
the terribly reactive nature of our extremely albedo dark and nasty
moon that actually has a fairly complex atmosphere of sodium, argon,
CO2 and deck layer Radon that's still at best offering next to nothing
of a sufficient atmospheric density for establishing all that much of
any shield.

I also agree that the "moon reflector can't reflect back to the sending
point as the earth turns", but most importantly is that such can't
manage to collectively out-reflect their natural surroundings to any
extent detectable by the very best of science instruments upon Earth or
in orbit. The math proves this being worth nearly zilch if not
impossible with the limited amount of such retroreflectors and dealing
with the tremendous width of laser beams as having been transmitted
simply can not demonstrate even so much as offering us anything that
could be isolated as retroreflector photons as opposed to those being
common lunar surface photons, of which there's simply millions more
square meters worth of 25% IR reflective lunar soil per retroreflector
that isn't worth one square meter. Even the most recent efforts of a
supposed 2 km zone that's providing 3.14e6 m2 as being illuminated is
nearly 4e6:1 of lunar surface that's going to entirely swamp the path
of whatever returning photons as having far too many of those lunar
surface reflected photons, and also because those retroreflectors were
not even band-pass coated, there's absolutely no viable way of
extracting which if any of the returning photons are not those derived
off the raw surface, a raw surface that's actually providing itself as
a fairly good IR reflector depending upon the spectrum of IR having
been utilized (generally the longer the IR wavelength the better off
the moon itself reflects).

The first few years worth of those retroreflector infomercials having
suggested upon their achieving a 20 km diameter zone of illumination is
one heck of a mission-impossible pathetic joke.

Now if instead of those pathetic passive retroreflectors that were
somewhat massive for their size, if there were even a fairly broad
100mw visible laser beam deployed as offering a 50 milliradian as a 0.1
millisecond transponder beacon, as for that sourced of focused photons
we would have easily detected such with our naked eye. Hells bells
folks, as little as deploying a one joule xenon strobe performing as a
remote triggered beacon, if having a 0.5 degree radian (500 mr) as
focused upon mother Earth would have been downright sufficient, and we
certainly had 100 joule Xenon strobes available that could have easily
replaced those retroreflectors at not 10% the mass, and of 1 joule
capable strobes at perhaps all of 1% the mass.

>tj Frazir; - The bull*** nasa landed in was coral calcium from guam.
Personally, at least to my observationology worth of interpretation it
has always looked almost exactly like the sort of albedo and color
spectrum as having been Xenon lamp illuminated and as having physically
reacted nearly exactly like a 50/50 blend of portland cement and
cornmeal, as perhaps applied along with or just over the surface of
that "coral calcium from guam", or how about their having used the
entire phosphate island nation of Nauru that's extremely isolated and
worth all of 21 km2.

I may not agree with each and every notion that you've ever proposed.
However, I totally agree with most everything that has been provided in
the past and could likely post again and again about our cold-war
perpetrating government and of their NASA/Apollo fiasco. However, I
believe that you're still giving us too good of a name for what our
NASA represents to science and humanity humanity ("nasa is a bunch of
dumbfucks"). Next step; how do we best go about nailing these absolute
heathen bastards?

Much like what BBC/NOVA/GOOGLE plus NASA have been collaborating upon
their having created and promoting those horrifically spendy
infomercials which obviously only supports their moderated and thus
orchestrated side of the argument, whereas if you'll create a few
external pages that I can post links to, and in exchange you might care
to accommodate the same on my behalf. At least in that way we'd be
supporting ourselves without our getting topic trashed and or my having
to deal with so much of their MI6/NSA~CIA PC fuckware.
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"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~

Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree far beyond; WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident warlord(GW Bush).
Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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