Re: The Turing test tells us nothing really.


Der alte Hexenmeister wrote:
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> > http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/T/Turing_test.html
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> > Oh yes it can quack like a duck, but can it fly?
>
> It flies like a helicopter, but can it quack like a bee?
> The Turing test isn't "does the machine has blood?",
> it is "does the machine reproduce a realistic person?"
> A TV passes the Turing test, it reproduces the real
> Mona Lisa as well as the portrait reproduces her.

It is insufficient to merely speak to a computer, and ask it questions,
in order to determine if it has sentience IMHO because people are not
good at making such judgements and will often be seen talking to their
computers, and hitting them or talking to just about anything, their
cars, as if they were sentient.

The Turing test, is not scientific at all if you ask me because it is
based merely on opinion and heresay. "Well we sat 5 people down and
they said it seemed human to them."

So, man, is not qualified, to juidge sentience, because of the
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal, and the fact, that man cannot know
objectively what sentience is, because he himself is sentient.

One must get above sentience, you see? The thing in itself, cannot know
itself, therefore one must go up to a higher order of being, say to the
aliens, yes extra dimensional aliens as Dr. Michio Kaku stated in his
paper, where man is like a fish in a barrell, and an extra dimensional
alien, could reach into the barell and merely pluck him out. His
mentor, Dr. Edward Teller, (who designed the atomic bomb) told him all
about that.

So you see, if an alien were looking down at man, talking to his car,
for instance, he would not be overly surprised at all, because it
happens all the time, and to suggest, that that same man, could tell
you truthfully, whether or not a computer was sentient, just by talking
to it? Well that seems silly to me, given the track record man has for
misjudging everything. Including of course the hollow moon clearly
visible in the night sky. The non rotating hollow moon I might add,
which of course should be rotating according to the fact that as it
goes around the earth, the drag should cause it to rotate. And man
would suggest that it is tidal locking, and man would suggest that it
does rotate one complete revolution every time it goes around the
earth, but that again just goes to show how easily man is mistaken,
because if you were standing on the moons noth pole, you would not be
rotating WRT an imaginary axis line between south and north poles now
would you?
No you would not.
And thus man is fooled again.
The moon has passed the Turing test for rotating and it is not spinning
on its axis at all.
Which of course it would be if it were excerting pressure on the tides
as some suggest. Wrongly suggest I might add, but nonetheless.





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> > People misidentify things constantly. I mean one need only look at any
> > of the websites portending that the miriad of lights in the sky are
> > little green men.
> >
> > case in point:
> >
> > Examine closely this slide of Aitken basin on the moon, and to the
> > untrained eye, it looks like a death star. (An upside down one with a
> > titanium hull) and even go so far as to examine the hi res image, and
> > examine the legend, and the use of the colors within the legend, and
> > notice also that the site is an official site, from a prestigious
> > organization which has numerous PhDs on staff, who dilligently guard
> > their public image and who would never put out a graph of this sort
> > without scrutiny regarding its accuracy.
> >
> > Here is the slide
> > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/clem2nd/slide_26.html
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> > here are their credentials
> > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/sci_staff.shtml
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> > So you see my point is simply this, the moon is a spaceship, and yet
> > daily, people are misidentifying it as a big ball of rock, just
> > floating there mind you, in the sky!
> >
> > It is passing the Turing test, as a ball of rock.
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> "Spaceship Earth".
> http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/parks/attractionDetail?id=SpaceshipEarthAttractionPage&bhcp=1
> Der alte Hexenmeister.

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