Re: Fraud in Experimental and Theoretical Science



On Sat, 6 Jan 2006, PD wrote:


jgreenfield@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


Hwang = Shapiro, who's conspiracy with (or direction by) the US Defence Dept, has tried to hide the true situation that c'=c+v as proved beyond reasonable doubt by Bryan Wallace from radar ranging of venus in 1960's http://surf.de.uu.net/bookland/sci/farce/farce_6.html (see whole site, especially pages 7,8)

OK, ya gotta ask yerself why on earth the US Defense Department would try to hide whether c'=c or c'=c+v. Is it because: 1. Shapiro is fabulously but secretly wealthy and he's paid off politicians to support his position? 2. It's a disinformation campaign to keep the Chinese and the Russians wasting their time on instruments improperly designed for c'=c? 3. The cabal of physicists have threatened to blow up a device if they cannot continue to say ridiculous and incorrect things? 4. It is dangerous to let the common population know the truth that c'=c+v, because the correct knowledge could lead to the development of all sorts of technology that we are not morally equipped to handle responsibly? 5. The government once bought into c'=c in the development of the atomic bomb, and it would be tremendous embarassment to reveal that the bomb worked despite the error and we don't really understand at all how it works.

It must be far more subtle than that. Unfortunately, Wallace is light on giving any numbers, but he does say that the radar ranging results had a c'=c+v _component_, which suggests that the "real results" were more like
c' = c + alpha v, where alpha << 1. I did allude to this earlier in discussion with Greenfield, noting that 5 times the expected error of 1.5 km is far less than the 250 km or so difference that c'=c+v should yield.


So it might be a case of hiding of c' = c + 0.005 v; the military implications of which must be truly astounding. It isn't just about a choice between Newton and Einstein, but it must be a whole mysterious new physics, just like Tom Bearden has been saying all along!

Therefore, I fully expect Greenfield to finally get off his arse to design, build, and implement a nice definitive cheap and replicable table-top experiment to show c' = c + v, basically using the deviation that c'=c+v requires from the Maxwell equations. Since it's so clearly obviously true that c'=c+v, I can only wonder why he hasn't bothered do so already.

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