Re: Is time dilation real?

"Spaceman" <Realspace@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | But different mechanisms nontheless. You claim
> | that different mechanisms will be affected in
> | different ways.
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> No, I claim not all clocks have been tested.
> Why you change my claim is unknown.

Why do you insist on exhaustive testing? This is
usually the last refuge for an argument that's
already lost. It is not practical nor required.

Why don't you propose a fundamental clock mechanism
(that is, besides the mechansism that have already been
tested such as particle decay, electron transitions,
light frequency shifts, orbital motion) that you
believe will be affected differently? Note that "an
hourglass" is not a mechanism. It's a complex of
mechanisms. You need to break it down to the specific
mechanism that you believe would fail to be affected
by relativity.

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> | If you are unhappy about the fact that particles
> | are involved, then add to the list the observed
> | spacetime effects noted in systems consisting
> | of spinning pulsars and closely orbiting massive
> | bodies.
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> <snipped>
> || Besides, physics is not about causes or "why's".
>
> This is the biggest bull*** happening in science today.
> physics and science is about such. and those who don't think it is
> are not helping science nor physics at all.

Now you want to apply your own definition of physics?
Why not just define yourself as perfect and declare
yourself right in every idea that you have?

> Why did the apple fall.
> who cares.. that is not science nor physics..lol

Physics models *how* the apple falls, not *why*.

> lol
> You are so freakin brainwashed you have forgotten to look
> for the why, and now you don't even think you should have to.

Why is left to religion and philosophy. Science is about
data and models. If you don't like it, then that's
something you need to deal with yourself.


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