Re: Is time dilation real?



"Spaceman" <Realspace@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:g7SdnW2W5fDDi0XeRVn-oA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | You don't seem to understand that the clock that
> | we see as running slow would be a perfectly good
> | clock to someone travelling along with it.
>
> No,
> I understand all that.
> It is you that does not seem to want to understand
> what clocks are supposed to do.
>
> If it changes rate of timing WTR another clock,
> one of them is wrong, simple as that
> Or even worse, both could be wrong.

Or they can both be right if the universe works
that way. And it does. This is the meaning of
the statement that time is relative.

>
> the change of rate is the problem
> timing in science should not be just accepting such
> a change and if it want to proceed it needs to fix
> such a timing problem and not just call it ok and work around it.

There is no fix. There is understanding how to make
measurements and apply the appropriate conversions
for frames of reference. That's the way the universe
seems to work. If relativity is correct, and according
to all tests performed so far it is, then there can be
no clock that will measure the same rate of time for all
observers. If you correct the clock for one observer,
it will still be wrong for others.

>
> If we just worked around clock malfunctions long ago,
> we would still have trains crashing into each other from
> clock malfunctions alone.

You are confusing accuracy with precision. Accurate
clocks on Earth are not affected by relativistic effects
to any degree that would impact mundane use.


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