Re: Is time dilation real?


"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | On the contrary; Apparently I know far better than you
| > | what clocks can and cannot do, and how the observed
| > | characteristics of the universe affects them. You,
| > | on the other hand, choose to blindly ignore the
| > | empirical results of experiment and wish to live in
| > | a universe that obeys your own desired laws.
| >
| > I do not blindly ignore the emperical results.
| > In fact, the emperical results back me up.
| > You seem to not gather that fact.
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| Which results are those James?

The end results Greg,
The clocks show different times.

| Hafel-Keating experiment:
|
| Three clocks spending time in three different frames
| of reference show three different readings when they
| are brought back together.

Because 2 of the clocks changed rate.
If they did not change rate at all,
they would still show the same times when returned.


| Yet each clock ran
| perfectly and at the expected rate while observed in
| their own reference frames.

Bull***.
they could not have done so if the end result times
were different.


| What mechanical "fix"
| would you apply to make all three clocks agree
| under all circumstances?

Find out what physically is changing the rate.

| Your logic is limited by considering only two
| clocks at a time. Expand your horizon.

No,
my logic is using the basic of timing that you seem to
not understand anymore because you have been brainwashed
to think that even though a clock shows different times then
another, that it supposedly ticked at the same rate.
That is sad.
It is your loss, not mine.


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