Re: Is it our math letting us down?



In article <1139124017.201870.310490@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<MuDeltaKappa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So the latest cause of my insomnia has been this: mathematics is the
cornerstone of physics (among other things); all calculations, all
explanations, all theory's, all everything is deeply rooted in math. It
has, and will continue to be, an indispensable tool for describing,
quantifying and predicting physical phenomenon; that is until it comes
to representing things like the center of a black hole - things which
require the use of both quantum mechanics and general relativity. The
mathematical descriptions we currently use just aren't up to the task.

The math is a description of the physics. It quantifies the postulates of
a theory and allows us to make quantitative predictions from it, possibly
predictions that we wouldn't have suspected even at a qualitative level.

When we have trouble at the center of a black hole, or uniting general
relativity and quantum mechanics, it's not really trouble with the math
(assuming humans don't fail the math and are able to solve the equations),
it's trouble with the postulates. That means it's trouble with the
conceptual foundations, not with the mathematical details.

So what do you think? Is there any evidence that our number system
really represents the universe? Sure most of it *works* but is it
really explaining whats going on or is simply a conceptual platform to
help us humans visualize complex problems? If it can let us down when
it come to such trivial problems as the ones above, how / why do we
trust it when it comes to uncovering the laws of the universe?


Number systems have little to do with mathematical physics. But yes, a
theory is simply a conceptual platform. We can't say a particular theory
is the way things REALLY are, just that a particular theory makes (or
doesn't make) predictions that match observation.


--
"Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler."
-- Albert Einstein
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