Re: Consistancy of the speed of light.


"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > "Bob Cain" <arcane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | Spaceman wrote:
| > |
| > | > yes,
| > | > time dilation is correctly predicted by SR.
| > | > in reality it is simply a clock malfunction that SR can predict
| > | > really well.
| > |
| > | So the observed slowing of decay rate observed when particles that
decay
| > | go very fast relative to the observer is a malfunction of the
universe?
| >
| > How do you know what particle is moving?
| > The malfunction I am talking about is "time keeping"
| > just because a particle decays slower because it is moving fast
| > has nothing to do with time slowing. It has to do with a particle
| > collecting more energy to keep doing it's normal job longer.
| > (a ball in space orbit spins longer than a ball on earth)
| > so the observed ball will "live longer" being in orbit.
| > It has nothing to do with time slowing.
| > Sheesh
| > Basic old fashion physics there and nothing more.
| > and not one bit of "time changing occuring for such to happen.
|
| You are making unwarranted assumptions about the conditions
| of the particles and balls.

No I am not.
I am stating relations that fit just fine.


| If a ball spins longer in
| vacuum and without the need for bearings (because it is
| weightless in free-fall) then this is one thing, and quite
| measurable and characterizable. But elementary particles are
| essentially *always* in vacuum and free fall no matter what
| their environment; they are vastly smaller than the air molecules
| around them and move without restraint or collision for very
| long times and distances.

Vacuum has nothing to do with it.
The gravity does.
The gravitational difference is what causes a slower/faster decay.


| Muons created in the upper atmosphere by the incidence of
| high energy radiation on atmospheric molecules make it
| all the way to ground level without colliding with anything
| on the way.

Sure,
that is why they don't die as fast as the one on the ground.
:)
still ball spinning stuff. and gravitational differences.
:)




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