Re: Consistancy of the speed of light.


"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Gaaack! Bite your tongue!!! In physics if you have
| something to say you write an equation. If you
| have nothing to say you write an essay.

No,
writing math that is already available is a waste of time
and if not available is new mathematical physics.

Stating cause and effects using everyday words
for the layman is basic physics.
You seem to be lost and think physics does
not have to use words.


| Except that SR doesn't treat gravitational fields.
| You need GR for that. And as I stated, the time
| dilation effect due to gravity for the muon case
| is far too small to account for the observed facts.

The muon case is a case that still
has no "physical" proof that you are in fact
following one muon in it's path.

| Then you're not here to do physics!

No,
I am here to "discuss" physics,
I am not here to discuss mathematics only
like you seem to be wanting for physics.

| > I am here to have fun with the physical aspects of
| > the universe. (not the mathematical predictions of theories)
|
| Without a mathematical model? Then all your assertions
| are just so much hot air.

What?
math is not a model, it is a map.
a model represents reality in a different scale.
a map represents reality on paper.
you merely have a map with math, not a model.
You don't even know what a model is huh?
lol


| What's gravity got to do with collision rate?

Lots
If you don't get that..
you have missed a lot of the real world models.

| No, SR doesn't handle gravitational fields. And,
| since *you* made the assertion, *you* must show
| how.

Really,
flat spacetime has nothing to do with gravity?
so why do they curve such to play with gravity.
LOL


| SR does not take gravity into account. It was developed
| explicitly without reference to gravity, and treats only
| velocity related effects. GR does everything, that's
| why "Special" reletivity is called "Special", and
| "General" relativity "General".

so SR will die unless it is united with
a gravitational theory..
hmm?
Oh wait..
that is where GR comes in huh?
Does GR use SR at all?
lol


| We measure the kinetic energy of the muons when they
| reach the ground, so we know their velocities.

woop de doo!
You know nothing about the traveling muon's true lifetime
or path taken.



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