Re: Consistancy of the speed of light.
- From: "Spaceman" <Realspace@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:42:56 -0500
"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | 1. We know that they are created in the upper atmosphere
| > | as a result of collisions with cosmic rays. How?
| > | because there are no muon showers that start above the
| > | atmosphere (empirical fact).
| >
| > Yup,
| > So one muon is created along with bunches of others
| > Rain does that too.
| > Do you ever follow a single drop of rain
| > all the way down?
| > (did you follow the muon path also)
| >
| > | 2. Muons come down in showers of a certain size that all
| > | come from a single collision. This "umbrella" of
| > | particles has been measured.
| >
| > Yup,
| > so you measured the rain.
| > you still did not follow one single unit
| > to prove it's own lifetime.
| >
| >
| > | 3. The kinetic energy of the muons is measured when they
| > | reach the ground, so we know how far they have
| > | travelled over a given timespan. The lifetime of
| > | the muon puts limits on the maximum distance of their
| > | origin, even allowing for time dilation.
| >
| > No,
| > you know that a muon made it.
| > you don't have any clue if it is the same muon
| > at all.
|
| 3a. The muons cannot have come from outside the atmosphere
| (See (1) above)
So what,
No physical proof you are following one muon
in it's complete lifetime.
| 3b. There are no physical processes with enough energy
| to create new muons on the way down from the top
| of the atmosphere.
So what,
No physical proof you are following one muon
in it's complete lifetime
|
| 3c. Any muons that *do* happen to collide with air molecules
| on the way down are lost from the total, since they
| decay upon collision.
So what,
No physical proof you are following one muon
in it's complete lifetime
| 3d. The angle of impact tells us the direction they came from.
So what,
No physical proof you are following one muon
in it's complete lifetime
| > You are in physical-less proof land with such crap.
| > No physical proof at all about the muon being
| > the same muon that was further up.
|
| You're way out on a limb here, James, and the limb
| cannot support your weight.
No,
You are out on a physical-less limb,
and it can't hold your "physical proof" up
at all since again...
No physical proof you are following one muon
in it's complete lifetime exists in your "proof".
| > Do you even know what "physical" proof is anymore?
| >
|
| Apparently better than you do.
No,
You still have no physical proof at all that
the muon is the same muon at all.
You lack the physical proof completely.
All you have for physical proof is that muons exist in
different places.
.
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