Re: Hawking: A true event horizon never forms, just an apparent horizon.


Jeff_℞elf wrote:
Hi Eric_Gisse,

Another reply, another subject change. Good job being an idiot.


I noted that Event_Horizons cannot form
before the end of the universe, You replied:

Learn the difference between coordinate time and proper time.
Upon knowing the difference, ponder what an observer far away from
the event horizon would see vs what an infalling observer would see.

The local observer at a Hypernova_Cum_Black_Hole would see just that,
a hyper rapid explosion... culminating in the end of the universe.

The Unruh radiation would approach infinity
as the density and gravitational acceleration did the same.

You think so? Prove to me with MATH that the gravitational acceleration
within a black hole's event horizon is infinite.


Hawking had this to say about his current model of black holes:

Thus the total path integral is unitary
and information is not lost in the formation and evaporation of black holes.

The way the information gets out seems to be that
a true event horizon never forms, just an apparent horizon.
__ GR Conference website summary of Hawking's talk.

Do you even know what a path integral is?

What he said has exactly zero bearing on the question of whether black
holes can form or not.


I told you:

For supermassive stars, time dilation and length contraction
is simply a function of special relativity and escape velocities.

And you replied:

NO IT ISN'T.
In the domain of ANYTHING gravitational, SR can not be applied. It is
purely the territory of general relativity.

This is just one of many links I found that confirms what I said:

The error between the gravitational escape velocity
and the equivalent Lorentz time dilation velocity
is less than ± two parts per million.

www.JournalofTheoretics.COM/Articles/3-6/Solomon-pub.htm

HA HA HA HA. You cited a crank for your proof. Priceless.

Why don't you find one that says that off an edu then I will take it
seriously? The "Journal of Theoretics" is the only place that will
publish Ken Seto's tripe and is not to be taken seriously. Its' asinine
comment on time dilation just proves that it is a shitty journal.

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