Re: Is it our math letting us down?

Borne wrote:
Your model violates HUP.
Yet you don't give an alternative dynamics of the electrons movement
in the atoms or an alternative atomic model that doesn't use
HUP. This is the core of your model inconsistency.

You are wrong in your assumption. My model produces the precise
structure of space-time as well as the precise structure of the
subatomic particles. When the subatomic particles are understood as
primary angular momentum, the HUP comes into clear focus.

The HUP and my theory are based upon the same data, but the HUP is an
interpretation that says the electron is like a cloud that has a
probability of being within a certain area, while my theory says the
electron is a cloud created from a string of mass moving over a certain
area within a quantum moment. The only difference between HUP and the
APM is our interpretations of the electron and space-time structure.
Both theories agree that the data is correct.

You
didn't accept HUP yet you didn't derive a new atomic model
of electrons behavior with regards to the nucleus.

Yes, I did. Well, not really, because Linus Pauling already did it
back in the 1960s. I incorporated Pauling's spheron model into the APM
and gave him due credit. The spheron model explains the Aether
structure as it gets contorted due to the strong force of the nucleons.
The electron structure follows the theory laid out by Wolfgang Pauli.


I show how the Aether folds to accomodate the binding of an electron
and proton to make a neutron. The same folding process also occurs in
the electron and nucleon bindings. And as in the spheron model, the
Aether units associated with the electrons wrap around the nucleus like
additionaly layers in an onion, except that the Aether units associated
with the electrons are uniform in their layering.

I don't have the graphics capability to produce a computer generated
image, but it can be done.

This is
why physicists are so mad about you. You talk about particle,
mass, spin, etc. yet you don't show how electrons move in
the atom without HUP.

People who don't take the time to study the new paradigm have nobody to
be angry at but themselves. The quantum structure is quantified not
only at the subatomic particle level, but even to a few levels more
primary to the subatomic level. For example, I derive the Gforce from
the force constants. I also derive quantum electrostatic charge,
quantum strong charge, and the weak interaction and show they appeared
from a split in the singularity. I then show how the Gforce acts upon
the charges to produce a quantum unit of Aether, which is the basis of
the fabric of space-time. Then I show how visible matter is made via
the Casimir effect, which absorbs dark matter into the Aether to
produce subatomic particles. The whole process I present is fully
quantified and explained in detail in the book. The quantification
continues by showing how the equation for the electron binding to a
proton to produce a neutron. I further extend the theory to show the
basis for the nuclear binding energy equation and electron binding
energy equation. I further back up the theory with mathematically
generated models to demonstrate the geometry of the equations and
constants.

If you were to take the time to thoroughly research how primary angular
momentum is constructed from the ligamen circulatus moving
perpendicularly at a velocity, you would see very clearly the
alternative explanation for the HUP. You will also need to fully
comprehend the five dimensional perspective the theory is presented in,
as opposed the four dimensional perspective you are use to thinking.

This theory is mathematically very simple, but several of the concepts
are unique to the APM and not found in QM or SR. These concepts are
essential to understanding the theory.

Note that because the electrons has wave
behavior. From Fourier, you can't localize the electron position
without increase in momentum. This is why the electron can't be
fitted into the diameter of a proton for lengthy period of time.
Therefore if you want to get physicists to get serious with you.
Either accomodate HUP and reject that neutron is made up
of bound proton/electron or produce a new atomic model of
how electrons dynamics in the vicinity of the nucleus without HUP.
Note that even though you describe subquantum mechanics
of what is underneath the electron. The behavior of the electron
in the nucleus still follow macroscopic properties such as wave
interactions etc. Gets?

You are talking about the behavior of a free electron in an atomic
nucleus, I am talking about a bound electron and proton. The strong
force is strong enough to capture and remain bound to an electron, but
its binding is fairly unstable. The instability is due to the magnetic
moments of the proton and electron, which is loosely what you are
referring to when you talk about "wave functions." If the neutron is
free, and not bound to a nucleus, then it is quite unstable and will
decay usually within 12 to 17 minutes. But if the neutron is bound to
other protons and neutrons, the strong force exerts a tighter grip on
the bound electron and proton and thus they stay bound for long periods
of time.

In certain isotopes there can be empty spaces within the spherical
(more or less) nucleus structure. The protons and neutrons don't fill
out in an orderly progression from inner most Aether unit to outer most
Aether unit. When there is an empty space within the nucleus,
adjoining neutrons have room to wobble. The more wobble the neutron is
allowed, the less stable it will be and it will jeopardize the
stability of the whole isotope.

The beauty of the APM is that its atomic equations are based directly
upon the force laws, magnetic moments of the subatomic particles, and
the spin structure of the Aether. Your understanding of the nucleus is
based only upon the vibrations, or based only upon the "mass defect" of
the nucleus. The HUP has had to bypass the true atomic mechanics and
explain the atom solely in terms of its behavior. The HUP has
apparently been successful in quantifying the behavior, but that will
be the limit of its usefulness.

I am certain that since the APM and HUP are based upon the same data,
and that the HUP is capable of adequately quantifying the quantum
mechanics, then the APM will also be equally successful. The fact that
quantifying quantum mechanical behavior is outside of my limited
knowledge does not affect the validity of the theory, just my ability
to fully develop it.

I was just lucky that there was a huge void in the understanding of
quantum structure and that the equations for the structure are very
simple and neatly related to the quantum constants. Once I can find a
group of people who analyze the APM and see its worth, I hope to join
with them and learn the necessary skills to take the theory much
further.

Dave

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