Re: The speed of light revisited


"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| James
|
| You left the original reasoning of Copernicus which would have given
| you the answer you needed.As planetary heliocentric motion is seen
| directly from Earth then so is the noticeable effect due to finite
| light distance.Becasue Newton jumped to the Sun in his misguided
| attempt to resolve why the planets appeared to move backwards against
| the background stars he cuts out the ability to understand how the
| original determination of finite light distance was seen and understood
| through the motion of the Earth against Jupiter and its moon Io -
|
| "For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
| stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
| always seen direct, and to proceed with a motion nearly uniform, that
| is to say, a little swifter in the perihelion and a little slower in
| the aphelion distances, so as to maintain an equality in the
| description of the areas. This a noted proposition among astronomers,
| and particularly demonstrable in Jupiter, from the eclipses of his
| satellites; by the help of which eclipses, as we have said, the
| heliocentric longitudes of that planet, and its distances from the sun,
| are determined."
|
| http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm
|
| I do not expect anybody to immediately get how Newton mangled the
| original Copernican insight with the Roemerian insight to come up with
| that mess as none of you ever really developed a feel for the
| astronomical material but bounce of each other with 'facts' that are
| neither good nor right.
|
| Not one person James,not one single person has bothered to acknowledge
| that absolute/relative space is exactly where Newton went wrong but in
| terms of how he explained or attempted to explain Copernican
| heliocentricity.Even with the heliocentric time lapse footage,the
| explanations of Galileo,Copernicus and Kepler before you,you would
| still prefer to taunt each other and travel in the same pointless
| circle or that you would find it so easy to disregard the person who
| can point out exactly where the differences exist.
|
| Nobody likes to be lectured to James and certainly not me however what
| can be said of the original works of Copernicus and its later
| refinements by Kepler and Roemer that were destroyed in such an
| obviouis way by Newton.I have done nothing but promote a favorable
| account of the reasoning behind heliocentricity as Copernicus presented
| it against the rubbish of Newton.Without the correct view you can
| relative and absolute yourselves into oblivion,it will always be empty
| as you propose it but workable as the Newtonian flaw.
|
| Easy taunting these guys who know no better James but perhaps before
| you continue to do it maybe you will find yourself developing the same
| tactics they use to cover the fact that they have little interest in
| the astronomical material.Again,had you stuck with the resolution for
| Copernican heliocentricity you would have had your answer and be using
| the insight for productive ends.

I find it hard to believe the amount of brainwashing that has occured
in most relativists and of course I would have to gather some occured to me
about Newton.
If you could explain a bit more about what you mean to me,
maybe I can break my "brainwashing" and I will listen to you
since I do respect your thoughts as being out of the box and yet, still
real.
:)


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