Re: Can gravity be considered as prime force?


franklinhu@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello,

In view of above I have few questios:-

1.Why/how gravity and graviton can't be considered as prime force and
prime particle of all forces and particles?

2. Can indicated four fundamental forces be converted, destroed or
diluted to some other fource in view of above quote?

Sorry, pls tell in less technical language.

Best Wishes

According to my TOE which can be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/franklinhu/theory.html

This whole idea of exchange particles is just NUTS!

In my view, all forces are exchanged via phased wave interactions of
the aether which is just composed of a sea of neutrons.

I think a sea of neutrons as aether would have been noticed a LONG time
ago just by it's gravitational effects. If the aether existed at all,
it would probably need to be massless. But there are all kinds of
problems with the whole concept. That's why it was abandoned.


If you're
looking for the graviton, I think you will find that the
electromagnetic wave turns out to the graviton force carrier.

But EM waves only couple to electric charge. Gravity couples to mass.
And the fact that gravity is several orders of magnitude weaker than
EM seems to rule this out. Besides, the gauge particles have to have
different spins. Photons have spin 1 and gravitons need to be spin 2.

Also by my view, the strong and weak force do not exist. These are
forces that had to be 'made up' in order to explain the compact
Rutherford nucleus. I explain in my TOE that the nucleus of atoms is
not composed of a tightly packed ball of protons and neutrons that
would obviously fly apart. Instead of inventing the strong force, I
composed the atom of an alternating array of protons/electrons/neutrons
which form a stable and much larger space occupying atom. This model
has no need of a strong force.

This is basically Thompson's plum pudding model. Dead in the water
after Rutherford's experiments. Certainly one can always propose an
alternative way of looking at nucleons, but this won't do it.

The electromagnetic force is obviously an electromagnetic wave - so
what is gravity. It also turns out to have an electromagnetic source.

Unless you can show how mass is related to EM, this is nonsensical.

Large masses tend to be lacking in electrons and so are slightly
positively charged. It is this slight charge imbalance which causes all
neutral matter to be attracted to the Earth. Where do you think the
300000 volt difference between the ground and stratosphere comes from?
What causes lighting? It is the charging of the Earth. We are stuck to
the Earth like a piece of paper is stuck to a balloon you have rubbed
on your head. How is that for non-technical?

More like non-sense. It's been tried and died on the vine a long time
ago. Try applying your ideas to a body like the moon that has no
atmosphere. When was the last time you saw lightning on the moon?
Besides such forces exist and are already accounted for. They're call
Van der Waals forces and they play no role in gravity.

So all forces can be united as the electromagnetic force. If you want
to see more detail, read my TOE.

fhutoe

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