Re: Quantum Mechanics: established fact?
- From: "T Wake" <Usenet.es7AT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:10:50 +0100
"srp" <srp2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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T Wake a écrit :
"srp" <srp2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quite refreshing to see plain common sense raising its head
again Ken.
Without being unduly rude, it is often the case that people see common
sense when it is simply a matter of someone agreeing with them.
Not in this case. I have had the same view as Hubble and apparently Ken
for quite a long time, and for apparently the same reason : absense
of proof.
Ok, this is still agreement. Common sense is, very often, incorrect in
physics. Nature's idea of how things should occure rarely sync with what we
humans see and think.
That said, lack of "proof" is the important point (from a science
perspective).
There are lots of aspects of physics (on all scales) which can be seen to
defy immediate common sense, although they tend to become clearer with
study - this is not always the case.
In all cases I dug to the bottom, I found that when things appeared
to make no sense, it was always due to insufficient verified data
being considered or insufficient verified data being available at
the time of consideration.
Ok, I can't honestly say everything I have learned has ended up "making
sense" but the more I study the more sense they make.
Partially this is why I accept the t=0 event as being common sense. Having
studied it in detail, pretty much everything we can observe in the universe
points towards the cosmos having an "age" and be expanding. For these two to
be the case, t=0 had to occur.
Even in a steady state universe there is the question of when did it begin.
Ideally a theory which fills the cracks of "Big Bang" will do it without
creating more of its own.
My conclusion in this regard is that things always become clear and
always make sense when sufficient data has been gathered and considered.
Fair point.
Although apparently unrelated, I have a view that separate
confirmation that the pioneer axial spin so-called "anomaly"
(that I have just heard about) is not an anomaly at all,
may go a long way to do away for good with the Doppler
interpretation of the Hubble red shift.
That would be an interesting change to cosmology. For a start it would
cause all manner of problems regarding the age of the universe and the
results from parallax measurements (as these all "agree," a flaw would
have implications throughout)
Total agreement. Maybe more than you think.
For such a "groundbreaking" paradigm shift in cosmology, there would need to
be some major proof. While it is possible to dismantle each of the subsets
of the t=0 event as marking the start of the universe, overall they form a
fairly solid "belief."
While each individual observation, experiment or prediction may (on its own)
look weak, the fact that there is a body of them gives it more credence.
If you dismantle one part of the building, you need to ensure (unlike Jeff
Relf for example) that you arent using other parts as your evidence.
Unfortunately for the time scale, there is no way for my
own views to be formally published.
Why not?
Because I am just a Joe out of the street. Not part of the
community. I have no control over the time it will take for
my ideas to filter up and even be discussed.
Well, have they been submitted to a journal? You can start by describing the
experiments you feel would support your ideas.
Generally speaking, there are hordes of scientists who would bite your arms
off for a head start in re-writing cosmology. The fame and kudos that would
attach to such a person are phenomenal.
Seriously, if you are confident about your ideas then you will find a
scientist who will look into it.
I am positive however that reason will ultimately prevail.
Yes. Good.
Glad to hear that.
André Michaud
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