Re: Quantum Mechanics: established fact?

T Wake a écrit :
"srp" <srp2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:448AD584.4080103@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
srp a écrit :
T Wake a écrit :
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What other verification would you require?
That light photon trajectories deflected by galactic masses on their
way here do not use up some energy changing direction.
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This has been tested for and does not match the observed phenomena.
The required test has never been carried out, or else I would know
about it.
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Yet, you dont think this is sufficent and think "some other cause" should be considered.
Yes. Definitely. The Pioneer axial spin so-called anomaly directly hints
at the problem. My model directly predicted such spin slow down for
precisely that cause.
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And I am not suggesting we search for some unexplained phenomenon that
we cannot create here on Earth. I suggested verifying a perfectly and
very easily explainable phenomenon that can be clarified only by
a very simple experiment being carried out in deep space.

Very simple 2nd thermodynamics law application.
What is the experiment then?
To send a heavy wheel deep in space, far from any large body, set it
in rotation and observe if whether or not it will gradually slow down.

It seems to me that theory says that it will rotate forever. My model
says it will gradually slow down and in time, completely stop rotating.
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But, if the theory is sound, it will receive formal publication eventually.
If something new and groundbreaking is found then it gets publically debated - despite the best wishes of those who disagree. If a theory is sound, it will survive anything its detractors throw at it. (For example the H. florensis debate)
Until you publish, no one will know it.
Surely the experiment required to validate the model does not require acceptance of the model prior to the experiment though?
Ok, this isnt quite true though. The internal structure of nucleons has been determined for quite some time (and predicted for longer).
Not that long ago. Quarks up and down were detected only in the second half of the 1960's.

What about the internal structures changes the way things scale up?
SR was developped 100 years ago, defining rest mass based on the notion
that nucleon rest mass was invariant. Never was adapted to take into
account that nucleon inertia would vary with proximity of large quantities of matter due to coulomb interaction.

How does this answer the "pioneer anomaly" better than any other reason?
Simply because the effective mass of the Pioneer crafts can only be
slightly larger in deep space than measurable at Earth's surface.
You refer to the "scientific community" as a single organism, so I am using the same descriptor when I say you need them (it) to read it and get on board with your ideas.
Scientists can be recruited to a theory based on successful (reproducible) experimental data, or a very sound mathematical model.
Despite what is often alluded to on USENET, there is not a conspiracy to keep scientific advances hidden
So, mister reviewer, what are your comments ?

Comments on what? Your original post, or your repost of your own message here?

What is mathematically unsound in my little pdf paper for it to
be rejected with no comments by formal journals ?

I havent read it. I assume from this then, that you have submitted it and had it rejected. I am getting a distinct impression from this thread.

It is not an impression. You asked me if I had submitted my work to
a journal. I told you yes.

What is the reason for your very predictable silence on my pdf ?

What silence?

The silence of everyone who has had a look at it, except for Fred.

Or are you feeling at long last the community held leash that
forbids you from discussing (and maybe even thinking) of any new
promising idea publicly ?

Ok, the frothing begins. Initially I thought you were fairly reasonable and open to debate.

I am fairly reasonable and open to debate.

Are you just another USENET crank desperately seeking attention for an unsound theory?

Note that you addressed me first. Not the opposite.

Don't bother. I know the answer.

Same here.

Looks like the community systematically fails to pass my little
validation tests.

From this post, I get the feeling that you are dismayed that your lifetimes work was rejected.

Well, hardly my lifetime work, nor even my main interest. I started
really paying attention barely 8 years ago.

Unable to come to terms with any possible errors or mistakes in your acheivement, you have decided the fault must rest with the reviewers.

It is a fact that I don't have reviewers in very high regard.

Also unable to accept that a couple of reviewers could share the same negative opinion on your work, you have come to the conclusion that there is a "Community" who control each others thoughts and actions and are keeping your work suppressed.

Not at all. the community can not control my thoughts nor can it
keep my work suppressed.

You said yourself that the community has complete control, and that
all works not formally published will not be considered.

I think however that peer pressure, the grant system and the
rat race to publish at all cost, has strangled fundamental research
to a standstill. No one dares speak up any more in the community
against forced conformity.

If I read the PDF will men in dark suits and sunglassess turn up at my door?

Not likely. I even suggest you don't read it at this point.

You said that "the experiment required to validate the model does
not require acceptance of the model prior to the experiment though?"

Tell me when my little wheel experiment is going to be carried out.

I dont know.

Personally I am not sure what it would prove and as you seem resolutely unwilling to convince anyone as to its value, I suspect never is the answer.

There is no need to convince. Those who think it makes sense to
verify will eventually help cause it to happen. What others do
or think is irrelevant.

You said "If something new and groundbreaking is found then it gets
publically debated "

Where is the debate ?

I dont know. If you had published the work, it would take place in Universities. As you are obssesing about your "covert methods" it probably only takes place in your head.

It is not covert. I never made any secret of what I was doing.

I have found only utter and total intellectual silence in the
community for any new ideas for the past half century in the
community and on all public newsgroups since the Internet came
on line.

I haven't. I have found the exact opposite. ( I agree about USENET though)

And I observed the same in all post 60's publications before the
Usenet came on-line. Many even wrote about the problem trying
to draw attention. Franco Selleri for one.

The last time I saw the type of courage required for reviewers
to really stick their heads out and let new ideas through to
formal publication dates back to the Bohm paper 50 years ago.

Well, you arent keeping up with research then.

You can bet I have.

My conclusion has been that there is not going to be a repeat
any time soon, hence my decision.

Oh well. Good for you.

André Michaud
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