Re: Where is ahaha.... ahahahanson?


Mike wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Tom Potter wrote:

...and pseudoscience's like astrology, alchemy, etc.
have often paved the way to advancing the sciences.


Interesting conjecture on your part Potter. I'll bet
the correlation is negative. Got data?

Wikipedia
"..alchemy was one of the main precursors of modern sciences, and we owe to
the ancient alchemists the discovery of many substances and processes that
are the mainstay of modern chemical and metallurgical industries."

That is profoundly wrong. Newton spent the rest of his life after
publishing the Principia doing Alchemy. That had nothing to do with his
discoveries. It was the prevailing emotive approach to everyday life
mixed with high levels of superstition.

Wikipedia
"Kepler believed in astrology in the sense that he was convinced that
astrological aspects physically and really affected humans as well as the
weather on Earth. He strove to unravel how and why that was the case and
tried to put astrology on a surer footing,

So what? Newton also believed in astrology. Have you any idea how many
contemporary politicians, actors, public pesonalities resort to
astrology? There is not a single element in the geocentric or placidus
system used in astrology that relates to current dynamic theories of
planetary motion.

Kepler discovered the laws of planetary motion while trying to achieve the
Pythagorean purpose of finding the harmony of the celestial spheres. In his
cosmologic vision, it was not a coincidence that the number of perfect
polyhedra was one less than the number of known planets. Having embraced the
Copernican system, he set out to prove that the distances from the planets
to the sun were given by spheres inside perfect polyhedra, all of which were
nested inside each other."

No. That is wrong. Some contemporary metaphysicists and astrologers
insist on these stupid ideas in an effort to legitimize their
crackpottery. Kepler continues to work on existing observations (I
think Tycho's) and ancient work on heliocentric system primarily by
Aristarchos of Samos.

Only cranks insist that modern science has its roots in superstition.
It is exactly that what modern science tried to get away from and often
people were forced to present their work as evidence of superstition
just to avoid prosecution. Descartes did not publish his works after he
learned of Galileo's arrest and Newton inserted many paragraphs of
theological content to avoid condemnation.

Keep of cranking up Potter.

It is interesting to see that Mike asserts that he knows better
than the collective wisdom of Wikipedia.

Of course folks with normal intelligence can plainly see that Mike's
thinking <sic> is not first class when he makes statements like:

"There is not a single element in the geocentric or placidus
system used in astrology that relates to current dynamic theories of
planetary motion."

1. First Mike creates a strawman out of his own mind.
(geocentric or placidus system)

2. Mike then makes the unsubstantiated assertion that there is
no correlations between his strawman and "current dynamic theories of
planetary motion.", which may or may not be true.

3. And as can be seen,
Mike ignores the numerous links between astrology and astronomy.

The fact of the matter is that intelligent folks in ancient times,
observed that certain periods like days, months, and years
had a large affect on their lives, and they observed that
other periods like the periods of the planets existed,
and being the cross-correlating beings that they were,
the naturally wondered if these periods might also affect their lives
as the daily, monthly and yearly periods did.

The natural drive to establish correlations between observations
and pleasure and pain, lead to exhaustive observations of the
heavens, and the data obtained was systemized into
what is known as astronomy.

Apparently Mike thinks that he knows where the
"roots" "modern science", and I will be looking forward
to see Mike describe these roots.

Maybe Mike thinks that Gods or aliens
implanted the roots of science in certain people???

Or maybe Mike thinks that there are two sets of people,
"cranks" like me,
and "right thinkers" like him,
and that "cranks" associate non-science to sets of events,
and "right thinkers" like him, associate science to sets of events,

Well, let's wait and see what Mike has to
say about what the roots of science are.

That should be worth a few laughs.

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