Re: Mechanical Light


JoeT wrote:
Again, it appears hopelessly divided in all the discussions. Of course
you all support PD's views learnt from all no-aether theories,

My views are informed by *experiment* as well as theory. This is a
crucial point that you don't seem to get.

Formal
science philosophy-based mathematical models and against physics of
mechanics-based explanations.

Joe, let's figure out what you mean by "mechanics-based explanations".
Do you mean little balls bouncing off little balls? And at what point
do you think that physics started to deviate from this little picture?

Secondly, are you aware of *experimental findings* that simply cannot
be explained in any reliable, quantitative way by little balls bouncing
off of little balls? If you are not, would you like to hear of a few? A
number of them are quite startling.

Perhaps you didn't know that the fundamental concepts underlying a
theory are sometimes shaken up by *observations* that cannot be
explained by those concepts.

Before, you thought that there is no
aether and it is not possible that all universal phenomena can have
simple mechanical interpretation. Now, even such explanations are found
and presented to you,

Again, we have a difference of opinion about what "explanation" entails
in physics. To physicists, and this has been true for 350 years, an
explanation without being able to calculate with it is not really an
explanation. This has nothing to do with ether or not ether. It has to
do with what predictive science is.

you can no longer accept them and become the
protecters of religion-like pseudo-science of all no-aether theories.
Please open your eyes and have a good look at the science of all other
fields. None of them are mathematical theory based.

Why, that's where you're wrong. Let's take some examples:
- Chemistry, dominated by quantitative models
- Economics, dominated by quantitative models
- Genetics, includes a healthy amount of probability and rate-tracking
- Psychology, where no research psychologist would succeed without
tremendous grasp of statistical analysis
- Engineering, dominated by quantitative calculation

What field of science were you thinking of that doesn't involve
quantitative modeling?


I repeat, unlike social issues there is only one real science or
correct scientific answer. The real science must be consistent through
and is supported by all experimental findings.

Precisely. And there are some experimental findings that are simply
inconsistent with the predictions of a mechanical theory. Mechanical
theories get the *wrong answer*.

Physics of mechanics is
the only scientifically repeatedly proven scientific physics, not any
nor all no-aether theories.

You are apparently unaware of the *experimental evidence* in support of
these models.

It appears that I have little change to
convince any of you participating in the discussions but I believe that
the silence majority are finding my posts exciting and bringing hope to
bring real science back.


PD

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