Re: Are physicists arrogant ?

jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx a écrit :
In article <44DB61F5.9050302@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
srp <srp2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx a écrit :
In article <44D9ECFE.7050408@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
srp <srp2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Stan a écrit :
jmfbahciv@xxxxxxx ha scritto:

You are getting told that they are not excessively touchy.
The ones you think are excessively rude are not scientists,
they are the cranks.
Ok, that's reassuring.
(Got in only one post back)

I think your first impression was right. I have the same.
So-called physicists on the public newsgroups have consistently
been bad-mannered and generally condescending ever since the
sci.physics forum came on line.
I cannot think of a single working physicist who has ever
acted this way.
That's why I specified "so-called physicists".

Telling somebody that s/he is wrong and needs to study more
is not condescending.
Of course not. But that's not what Stan apparently was referring
to, and neither I. From your handle, I seem to recall that you
have been here a long time also. So you know very well what I
am talking about.

I have been reading here for a while. I also know very well what
you are talking about.
I can't imagine a top notch physicist being so little interested
by his own research (supposedly his main interest in life) wasting
his spare time making a hobby of sparring with commoners, putting
them down at the least misplaced comma as they are trying to
express their often fragmentary view of some question or other
in physics, as I have consistently seen many "physicists" do here
for years instead of informing them. Not only putting them down,
but freely ad hominem attacking them, kook lists and all.

Since I do remember your attitude over the years, you are another
one who is not interested in learning from the people who do know
this stuff.

Really!

I don't know what you saw, but I understand all standard theories and
am in sync with most of them.

The one orthodox physicist I remember having discussed with in years
here is Ken Tucker, and the discussion went fine. Simply because he
is able to carry out a civil conversation.

Maybe you refer to my refusal to discuss anything whatsoever with
uncivil parties. This has happened more than once. If this is what
you call not being interested in learning, then so be it. I have opted
out of all uncivil conversations for years and hens will have grown
teeth before I indulge.

Some other local physicists, like Craig Markwardt and Sam Wormsley seem
capable of discussing civily, but have shown no interest in discussing
with me.

So be it.

What are those idiots afraid of really, that a crowd of commoners
will hijack formal journals and succeed in having their personal
theories overwhelm the well founded pool? Come on!

Now, you start to show your real attitude towards knowledgable people.

This is the attitude I have with aggressors, not with knowledgeable
people.

Let me quote from the book "The Double Helix" from James D. Watson
in Chapter 2

"One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and
mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only
narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid."

You can rest assured that all these idiots posing here as fully
papered physicists as they aggress commoners belong to that
category.

Over time, I have put those I spotted in my killfile and the list
has quickly grown to the 2 figures range. Since I use Thunderbird,
their posts don't even come up on my reader any more.

There are monitored forums for peer to peer discussions for those
who don't like mixing up with commoners.

sci.physics is a free unmonitored forum open to all. Aggression
leads nowhere.

André Michaud

Then why are you so agressive?

I am not. I simply hold all aggessors at arm's length and incommunicado,
whether they like it or not.

They are part of the problem, not of the solution.

André Michaud
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