Re: Wave-particle duality


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Dear Sergey I'm sorry if I was not more direct in answering the "wave
particle duality" Yes I( must apologise when my thoughts jump around a
little. Best we all remember thinking point particles,waves,and fields
is tricky stuff. Reality is little of QM(micro world) relates in our 3
dimensional macro world. Sergey we know nature creates in pairs,and I'm
hypothesis the photons twin is "virtual" Lets further say they travel
through space horizontally. So coming to a slit the regular photon goes
through the left slit and its virtual twin goes through the right slit.
Thus proving a virtual photon makes a measurable interference pattern.
Now take an electron being a cloud of both virtual photons,and half of
the virtual photons it can give the same results. Can add a bucky
ball,and a virus have been used and the same amazing effect takes place.
Reality the answer like all right answers,are very simple. Reality is
its QM theory stuff,and we don't live in that tiny realm Bert

Dear Herbert, before your ideas get a right to exist, they have to be
consistent with some criterions of relevance to the nature, haven’t
they? So I will list you some discrepancies, doing not touching the
physics of photons but concentrating exceptionally on the wave-particle
duality.

1. As to virtual photons. Should the surrounding nature be virtual,
there would not exist such science as archaeology. Virtual things do
not leave tracks. Only that leaves them what really occurs in nature,
irrespectively of, observe we or not, or are we trying to study the
consequences of what happened some time ago. This shows, we may not
operate in physics with the concept of virtual. This violates the
conservation laws and leads us not to the study of regularities of
nature given us by God but to the fantasy as if God puts the truth into
your mouth.

2. “Sergey we know nature creates in pairs, and I'm hypothesis the
photons twin is "virtual" Lets further say they travel through space
horizontally”. Doing not touching the issue, how absurd the
conception of photons is, I would mention that photons have no virtual
pair. The idea that photon travelling oppositely to another photon is
anti-photon, or that a photon having another rotation of the
polarisation plane is anti-photon, is basically incorrect. In both
cases an anti-photon is not virtual and is not the pair for a photon.
Should two photons were responsible for radiation, it would violate the
Planck law. Also, should the main photon have energy and second one,
being virtual, have not, nothing could be summed on the screen. Closing
the slit through which your energetic photon passes, you would yield
the darkness, as the eye, photographic plate or detector react to
something related to the real energy that excites the receivers of eye,
crystals of sensitive layer of the photo-plate or the coating of
photo-cathode. No energy – no detection. So your statement of parity
of photons is incorrect.

3. “Now take an electron being a cloud of both virtual photons”.
This statement is also incorrect. First, as you know, photons have no
mass of rest. So the amount of photons also has no mass of rest. As
opposite to it, electron has the mass of rest; it has no cause to
appear if we imagine the electron as a cloud of photons. Furthermore,
electron is known to have an electric field. A photon out of itself
basically cannot have such field, as, first, it is neutral by
definition, and second, if photon has an outer field similar to that of
electron, photons will interact with each others, and we would never be
able to observe the focusing of light beams in the region without outer
accelerating field. We would observe only scattering of photons. At the
same time we have distinctive laws of geometrical optics valid in the
regions without outer accelerating fields. While for electrons the laws
of geometrical optics are applicable only and exceptionally in the
regions where the outer field is present.

4. “and half of the virtual photons it can give the same results”.
If I suppose, following you, that a half of virtual photons goes to one
slit and another half – to another slit, and these virtual photons
jointly are an electron, you should premise that going through two
slits, the electron splits. Well, as you are saying, after the slit we
yield not some particle but the interference pattern; consequently,
different parts of electron would have to hit into different points of
screen. At the same time, as we showed in our paper, the experiments
demonstrate electron to be integer in the region where we observe the
interference pattern,

http://selftrans.narod.ru/v6_1/interference/interference44/interference44.html

Moreover, in our paper, in Fig. 3a, you can see the photo that shows,
in each separate case the photo-plate detects a separate electron, not
some interference pattern produced by semi-clouds of photons that
compose an electron, as you are saying. Only the statistic pattern in
Fig. 3b looks like diffraction pattern produced by light.

Thus, all basic points of your reasoning appear grounded not so well,
and you dismay build on its basis the model which would describe the
wave-particle duality. I regret, dear Herbert, but this is so.

Sergey

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