Re: 2nd law of thermodynamics in question

Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
On 2006-11-15 16:58:37 +0000, "Paul" <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> said:

Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
On 2006-11-15 16:43:22 +0000, "Paul" <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> said:

Ah, so you allow magnetic fields to enter and leave the isolated
system, but not a moving magnetic field. Surely know how silly that
would be. How would you propose a legitimate 2nd law of thermodynamics
experiment to achieve that?

Read what he wrote. The key is "transport of energy"

Yes, I read it. Did you know a changing magnetic field "transport of
energy"??? :-)

Have you read ANY of the Thermodynamics books I posted.

What does that have to do with my statement? I could ask if you've read
this or that and on and on in _perhaps_ some ill attempt to smear a
person, but I don't.

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge moving magnetic fields
transports energy?







How would you propose to prevent neutrinos from entering your so-called
isolated system? Sounds like an impossible, childish, ridiculous, and
useless law, according to your definitions. :-)

As neutrino's do not interact with normal matter, they do not affect
the equilbrium or interact with the system - hence it is still isolated.


Sorry Phineas T Puddleduck, neutrinos do interact with matter. :-)

Neutrino's interaction with matter is vanishly small.


Quotes from Phineas T Puddleduck,

"As neutrino's do not interact with normal matter"

"Neutrino's interaction with matter is vanishly small."





But now you're trying to pick holes.

Pick holes? What an odd statement if a person is a truth seeker. If
you claim _every_ bit of energy and matter must be isolated then you
betcha I'm going to pick because I want to know how you are going to
propose such an experiment. You were the one who was just picking on my
switch. It's not my law. I don't adhere to illusions of limitations,
but it is my interpretation of the original 2nd law of thermodynamics
that it describes an isolated "THERMODYNAMIC" system, not photons,
magnetic fields, electric fields, etc-- heat, as in vibrating atoms.
There's nothing strange about my definition.

There are truth seekers, and there are followers. A follower believes
and defends their following till near death. Instead of defending an
obviously flawed law, why don't you drop the illusion of limitations
and search for theory breakthroughs? Look at the pattern in history.
What used to be thought of as a limitation is now possible. Get the
pattern? Sure, such leading edge people are _almost always_ chastised
and figuratively spit upon, trashed, and smeared, but at least you
could some real good. Now that takes real bravery!



Kind regards,
Paul

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