Re: 2nd law of thermodynamics in question

On 2006-11-15 18:16:06 +0000, "Paul" <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> said:

Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
On 2006-11-15 17:46:51 +0000, "Paul" <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> said:

You need to find a formulation of the 2nd Law
that doesn't imply conditions you can't achieve. Then you can formulate
a _detailed_ question and stick to it.

I already told you I do not adhere to such a ridiculous law.

Then break it.



Well, it seems after many attempts to get Richard Herring to answer two
simple questions, lets see if you are brave enough. If by chance at the
time of this writing Richard Herring has provided a detailed
description of equilibrium then I apologize.


Provide a detailed description what you mean by "at equilibrium" in
reference to your definition of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Seeing as you seem unable to do your own reading and research
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/thermo0.html

he zeroth law of thermodynamics begins with a simple definition of thermodynamic equilibrium . It is observed that some property of an object, like the pressure in a volume of gas, the length of a metal rod, or the electrical conductivity of a wire, can change when the object is heated or cooled. If two of these objects are brought into physical contact there is initially a change in the property of both objects. But, eventually, the change in property stops and the objects are said to be in thermal, or thermodynamic, equilibrium. Thermodynamic equilibrium leads to the large scale definition of temperature. When two objects are in thermal equilibrium they are said to have the same temperature. During the process of reaching thermal equilibrium, heat, which is a form of energy, is transferred between the objects. The details of the process of reaching thermal equilibrium are described in the first and second laws of thermodynamics.




Do you acknowledge experiment #1 (below) is colder than experiment #2
(below) after 1 second of starting the experiment?

Both experiments are contained in a box that is appreciably transparent
to radio waves and exist in free space where there are no appreciable
material objects within 4E+8 meters. Both experiments start at 300
Kelvin.

This experiment is not isolated. Its similar to having two objects connected to a heat sink, only by different wires with different thermal capacity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_equilibrium

Why do you refuse to actually research for yourself

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