Re: What keeps an electron from being "absorbed" by a proton?




malibu wrote:
Igor wrote:
edwin wrote:
malibu wrote:
Chris wrote:
If the probability density of the electron is non zero inside the
nucleus, what keeps it from being spontaneously absorbed by the proton
to form a neutron? (I realize that this does occur in some favorable
circumstances, but it is not the general rule.)


According to the Galaxy Model
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
it is spin that keeps them apart.
Spin two opposite charges the same way,
and they stay apart.
Spin them opposite ways and they become
neutrons.
John

I wholly agree with you. The process of doing it is quite easy...the
problem is the conventional theory disagrees with it. This is the
reason why science in this area does not progress.

Shows what you think you know. Conventional theory also agrees with
this. Two oppositely spinning electrons are slightly attracted to each
other, so they pair up. Two parallel spinning electrons are all the
more repulsed. That stuff about them becoming neutrons is just more
nonsense, however.

No, but wait, Igor.
Let's follow this thought process through.

Two oppositely-spinning electrons you say. OK, I'll
turn one over- now they're spinning the same way. How
do they ever stay same- or opposite- when we can
just view it from a different angle?

That only makes sense in classical mechanics. In quantum, it's either
spin up or spin down. Only one axis can ever be defined for angular
momentum of any type due to commutability issues.

How? Because they have this spin with respect to their own
center, not with respect to some arbitrary plane.

Now draw a line through that center and rotate the line
like a driveshaft. The part of the line on one side
of center will rotate clockwise wrt that center, while
the part of the line on the other side rotates counterclockwise
WRT that center. But the whole line rotates as a unit.

Who says anything's actually rotating? We're talking spin here, which
is a quantum effect. Electrons can't actually rotate. They're point
particles.

Now line up your charges along this vortex/funnel;
when a bunch of charges have the same
spin, opposite charges repel and like charges attract.

So, because opposing electrons having opposite spin
are now facing each other, they can share a common center,
which is what happens in Cooper pairs.

Again, you're describing a quantum effect. Maybe you should learn a
little more about it before discussing it.

.



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