Re: 2nd law of thermodynamics in question



jimp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Paul <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
jimp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Paul <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip piles of crap>

Foul mouthed personality.



Once again you post nothing more than rhetoric with claims lacking
detail. Asking one to detect the direction of energy of a stable
oscillating signal is asking to measure the direction of current. Such
a question is different than asking one to detect where the generator
is connected relative to the resistor, period. :-)

You do understand that current flow is an abstract mathematical concept
for modeling the real world, don't you?

In terms of just electrical engineering, yes, but not in reality.
Electrons have mass. Electron flow has momentum and inductance, which
is an indication which direction the electron (energy) is flowing.

Utter, babbling nonsense.

Electrons flow into the negative end of a resistor and out of the
positive end. By you logic, the energy disippated [dissipated] by a resistor would
be zero.

Sounds like you practice fuzzy logic. No, the resistor dissipates
energy.



Electron mass has nothing to do with electrical energy.

The topic is "energy flow." Please focus your mind.




How about a series circuit containing both electron flow and proton
flow?

It is still energy flow.




You know nothing about electricity.

Oh no. That hurt, LOL.




And specifically for an AC circuit, you do understand that the current
flow is constantly reversing, don't you?

Yes.



You do understand that the direction of current flow, since it is a
mathematical abstract can be in any direction choosen [chosen] and has nothing
whatsoever to do with the direction of energy flow, don't you?

Again, in terms of just electrical engineering, yes, but not in
reality. Electrons have mass. Electron flow has momentum and
inductance, which is an indication which direction the electron
(energy) is flowing.

More babbling nonsense.

Electrons don't have inductance

LOL. No offense intended, but I don't have time to teach you
electronics 101. Furthermore, you really need to focus your mind. I
said, "Electron ***flow*** has momentum and inductance"

.... waste of my time.




and electron mass has nothing to do with electrical energy.

Again, please focus your mind. We are talking about "energy flow."




What is the mass of a hole in a semiconductor?

No mass.



How come a current of X electrons and X protons is the same and the
energy is the same when the masses are greatly different?

In all seriousness you sound like a teenager? No offense, but this
conversation is a waste of my time. A dozen electrons flowing at the
same velocity as a dozen protons does not constitute the same energy.
Again you appear to practice the art of "close enough" physics?




Since previous poster presented one source and one load, there is only
one way energy can flow.

Incorrect. AC oscillates. There is no single direction

More babbling nonsense.

Energy flows one way; from source to load.

Vague statement. No energy is consumed from the source of power when
the AC voltage and current are 90 degrees out of phase. Energy is
consumed from the source of power when the voltage and current are in
phase. Furthermore, at any given moment in time there is a specific
amount of energy flowing, as previously stated many time.




and asking which end is the source and which
end is the load is exactly the same thing, i.e. from the source to
the load.

jimp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx believes that asking the direction of energy
flow is the same question as asking where the generator is relative to
the resistor. Perhaps the physics of "close enough" is contagious at
sci.physics.

Perhaps you should enroll in a class in basic electricity as just
about everything you say is babbling nonsense.

Only in the mind of a 1-ply thinking master in the art of "close
enough" physics.

You should learn to acknowledge your errors. When in error I am honored
to admit such an error.




Regards,
Paul

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