Re: The Pendulum Swings yet again....



Tom Potter wrote:

"Edward Green" makes a good point ...

Somehow, I feel this is not going to signal agreement.

... when he points out
"It would <be> criminally negligent
for the FBI not to <watch potential war instigators carefully.>

Wrong gloss. Try "potential terrorists and their supporters".

As can be seen, after FDR died, and Truman became president,
Americas did a 180 and began to watch the Jews
who had been actively instigating the Class Wars ...

You've just lost my interest.

I do see some parallels between this era and the McCarthy era. Now, of
course we all know, McCarthy was a bad man. In truth, I would not say
he was a good man, and probably, by his excesses, he actually
eventually weakened rather than strengthened the country. But if the
US were not under an credible threat by a foreign power whose aim was
to undermine, weaken and destroy us (as us them, no doubt), McCarthy
would never have gotten a start. In fact, there is an inconvenient
truth: complete peacetime freedoms are incompatible with fighting a
war. The US is fighting a war now; a protracted war, which resembles
the Cold War more than any hot conflict. Iraq _is_ Vietnam -- the
localized nexus of shooting -- but only a glowing crack in the slag.

The Parable of the Tribes is: when confronted by the violent tribe, the
peaceful tribe, as a meme, will at least temporarily be wiped out:
either physically, or they will be forced to adopt agression and the
habits of the agressors. If the peaceful tribe has an ideal of letting
its citizens along to do as they like, then, the violent tribe, failing
in outright assault, will begin using the peaceful tribe's very virtues
against it -- their agents and sympathizers can work freely from within
to undermine and weaken their adversary. Once again the open tribe will
be at least temporarily defeated as a meme: either the hostile tribe
will achieve from within what they could not by external assault, or
the open tribe will be forced to act against its ideals to defend
itself.

<snip rest>

Mayfield was not "silenced" as an enemy of the administration -- he is
anything but silent, $2 million dollars in hand to assauge his hurt --
he was arrested based on strong circumstantial evidence tending to
focus attention on him as a possible sympathizer _and_ faulty
identification of a piece of physical evidence. Following his release
-- showing that the government is not the Junta, or he would simply
have remained disappeared -- he continues to capitalize on his legal
upper hand to do as much damage to his country's defense as possible --
indicating, apart from the misidentified print, that the FBI wasn't so
wrong about him after all.

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