Re: Spinning Star Problem

"Greg Neill" <gneillREMo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"hanson" <hanson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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[Greg]
Suppose you've got a ladybug walking along the
surface of an elastic band towards your hand,
which is holding one end of the band. If you
start stretching the elastic so that the rate
of the expansion is just less than the constant
walking rate of the bug, it'll take the bug a
lot longer to reach your hand than if no
stretching were taking place. [1]

It's similar for space which is expanding. Light
moves (locally) at a constant speed whilst the
space between distant objects is expanding. [2]

[hanson to Greg]
[1] yeah, but YOU were there to supply the energy
into that rubber band system. Who/what supplies
that expansion energy on the truly cosmic scale?

[Greg]
This is the conjectured "dark energy".

[hanson]
Ahhh... Buzz-words... ahahaha... & just because it was
printed you BELIEVE that "This is so...." ... ahahahaha...
Trip wire: ...in the print, isn't that dark energy supposed
to do exactly the opposite of what you say?... ahahaha...

[hanson]
[2] How are you measuring, not deducing or
conjecturing, the cosmic expansion speed when
you only know the constant "local: speed of light?
Where, or at what number/size/limit is that borderline
where "local" goes over to/becomes "distant"?

[Greg]
Red shift and time dilation, and in particular,
the values obtained frm the spectra of distant
supernovas.
[snip]

[hanson]
..... ahahaha... really now, Greg!... ahahahaha... Say again,
this time without "deducing or conjecturing"... or at least
make a step to step case. Use equations and numbers
if you wish, especially for that "local/distant" thing... and
then tell me why that "local" becomes "distant" at that point.
.... ahahaha... DON'T use any buzz words!... ahahahaha...
ahahaha.... ahahahanson


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