Re: Questions about the Holocaust


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Tom Potter wrote:
<huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It is interesting to see that <huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx>
is in "denial" about the fact that Jews have come
into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout history,

and that they were central to the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and are central to the Religious Wars of the 2000's.

If all of these things were really true, then it would be wrong to deny
them. However, because I do not have all of the facts, I cannot
possibly make a judgement whether one way or the other.

Even if Jews did play a part in these things, it seems highly unlikely
that they were solely responsible. Denying the roles played by others
seems to put all of the blame on one party, which would then be a
distortion.

I think that history is littered with abortions and injustices. We
cannot change that. What we all need to do is figure out how to live
together in peace, because we do not want to relive the past. We do not
need any more inquisitions, or holocausts, or eugenicists, or
lobotomies, or shock therapies, or tortures, or any of the other idiocy
from history.

Can we agree on that ?

<huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx> makes the good point
when he suggests that
a serious, international study should be made
of the lowest level sentient efforts that go into
instigating murder and chaos.

No problem. Including the Middle East, I agree completely.

There is no doubt that George Bush was the focal point
for the destabilization of Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan,
and that he is trying to destabilize North Korea, Argentina,
Russia, and perhaps other nations,

and a detailed, open and honest scientific study
should be made of the value to society of destabilizing nations
and where the source of the instigation arises.

Peoples differ, and this is what makes life interesting,
but it is clear that there are people and groups,
who take advantage of ANY difference between peoples
(Race, religion, class, geographical location, resources, etc.)
in order to instigate conflict between them,
so they can profit in terms of power and wealth.

The world is too small,
and the peoples are too homogeneous,
and the WMD are too available and powerful,
to maintain the status quo.

It is interesting to see that when anyone makes an effort
to look into this issue,
that they are systematically and aggressively attacked,
and the bullet proof people of note,
who bring up this issue are systematically
and aggressively demonized after they die,
or leave the public scene.

It was interesting to see that <huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx>
used the boilerplate tactic of equating a rational, intelligent, MORAL
investigation of this issue to emotionally charged events when he wrote:

Boilerplate tactic ? Nonsense. All I said is that when one looks back
upon history, one finds many things which are utterly horrific, people
being impaled, drawn and quatered, burned at the stake, stoned to
death, tarred and feathered, lynched, tormented, tortured, etc. And
that all of this collected ugliness is laid at the feet of all mankind,
not just one or two groups, but all of them. And lastly, that these
things are in our past because progress has placed them behind us.
Returning to those ways is regression. That is what I had meant to say.

"We do not need any more inquisitions, or holocausts, or eugenicists, or
lobotomies, or shock therapies, or tortures, or any of the other idiocy
from history."

I am pleased to see that <huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx>
agrees with me that
"We do not need any more inquisitions, or holocausts, or eugenicists, or
lobotomies, or shock therapies, or tortures, or any of the other idiocy
from history."

I suggest that the best way to prevent these things from happening
is to identify the lowest level, sentient actions that instigate
conflict and war, and do something about it.

It appears that a small group of people
have been central to many conflicts and wars,
and an International group needs to hold
an honest, no-holds-barred examination
of who was actively instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and who is instigating the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
and to promote laws that expose and punish instigators.

As can be seen, the war-for-profit gang
is "Mel Gibsoning" Jimmy Carter
who is the most honest, most peace loving president
that America ever had.

No doubt, they don't want anyone to expose their game,
or put a damper on their Religious War instigations.

It is interesting to see that the war-for-profit gang,
and their dupes, and fellow travelers,
aggressively and systematically "Mel Gibson" anyone
who tends to expose their game plan and methods.

And as can be seen ,they always drag out the some old
pet boilerplate, like inquisitions, or holocausts, or eugenicists, or
lobotomies, or shock therapies, or tortures, etc.
and try to make the messenger the issue,
in order to obscure the issue that is of critical importance
to mankind.

The thrust of their attack is that when anyone
points out what is happening, the war-for-profit gang
tries to make it appear that the person trying to
end their evil game, is doing what the gang is doing,
and has been doing, for centuries.

Hopefully <huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx> will join with me
and try to find out if it is guys like Jimmy Carter, Mel Gibson, etc.
who are instigating all these conflicts and wars,
or if it is the people who gang bang guys like this.

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