Re: Anti-gravitational effects demonstrated using a Van De Graaf generator

On Jan 31, 1:18 pm, carlip-nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
frankli...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

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I was looking for something like "Why gravity can't be the
electrostatic force", but I find almost nothing in the literature
or the web.

The simplest reason is this: in gravity, all masses attract, while
in electrostatics, like charges repel.


This is too simplistic. The main attractive force caused by an
electrostatic gravity is the attraction of neutrally charged matter to
a point electrostatic force. This is called the dielectrophoretic
force and is cause by the separation of charges within neutrally
charged matter. This is the same force that allows a charged balloon
to pick up neutrally charged bits of paper.

Since gravity is caused by an overall positive electrostatic charge on
an object, this would mean that all astronomical objects like the
Earth and Moon would be positively charged. They do not repel each
other since most of the mass (99.999999999%) of astronomical objects
is still neutrally charged. The neutrally charged matter is still
attracted to any strong electrostatic force (like that coming from the
Earth). The attraction of the neutrally charged matter (99% attracted)
overwhelms the repulsion created by the tiny amount of charged matter
(10^-38% repelled). So similarly charged objects, do not necessarily
repel. The net force is the result of the attraction of the neutral
matter versus the repelling of the similarly charged matter. So the
Earth and Moon can both be net positively charged, but still attract.
The Lunar lander is attracted to both the Earth and the Moon because
it is neutrally charged and is attracted to the positive electrostatic
force generated by both the Earth and Moon.

The assertion that gravity is all attractive is what I disproved with
my VDG experiment. Positively charged mass is repelled from a
gravitational field. So gravity can be a repelling force.

What other objections do you have against the gravity=electrostatic
theory? As a professor I would be interested in your serious input on
this matter. Please try to go beyond the simplistic answers. I took a
look at your web site - very interesting.


For example, the Earth ands the Moon attract, so in an electrostatic
model, they must have opposite charges. The Earth and the Sun
attract, so they, too, must have opposite charges. But that would
make the charge of the Moon the same sign as the charge of the Sun,
so they would repel. This does not happen -- the Moon's orbit
very clearly shows that it is attracted by both the Earth and the
Sun.

(Or for a more dramatic example, what "charge" would you ascribe to
the Apollo 11 lunar lander? It was attracted to the Earth -- they
didn't have to scrape it off the ceiling during assembly -- so it
must have had the opposite charge from the Earth. But the Moon is
also attracted to the Earth, and must also have the opposite charge
from the Earth. Why, then, wasn't the lunar lander repelled from
the Moon?)

Steve Carlip


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