Re: Anti-gravitational effects demonstrated using a Van De Graaf generator


"Mitchell Jones"

If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ

There was the next possibility. On my screen no your answer but in Goggle
is.

***{No. Franklin's electrical theory was not applicable to gravitation
for the reasons already explained by Steve Carlip. Franklin's idea was
that there is an electrical fluid that, when in excess in two bodies or
when deficient in two bodies, causes them to repel one another, and,
when in excess in one body and deficient in another, causes them to
attract one another. His "fluid," of course, should have been the
loosely attached outer electrons of ordinary atoms, after they have been
moved from their original locations. The excess would be in the areas to
which they had been moved, and the deficiency would be in the areas from
which they had been moved. If he had correctly identified which areas
were in surplus and which deficient, the charge on the electron would be
considered positive today, and the analogy between gas flow through a
system of pipes and that of electricity through wires would much more
useful in teaching the principles of electricity. Unfortunately there
was no way in Franklin's time to decide, when objects attracted one
another, which one was in deficiency vis-a-vis the hypothesized fluid,
and which was in surplus. Franklin had to guess, and he guessed wrong,
with the result that we are saddled to this very day with the absurd
notion that the fluid is deficient in areas where the mobile units of
charge (the electrons) are in excess, and thus millions of students of
electrical theory have had to struggle with what ought to be easy, for
no better reason than (a) that Ben Franklin had to guess, and guessed
wrong, and (b) that modern physicists are too hidebound to correct an
obvious error, once it has been incorporated into thousands of
textbooks. --MJ}***

The same is in our book. But we have two names - F.Aepinus and B. Franklin.
They do the same in the same time but separately.

who recognized the possibility that the
attractive force might slightly exceed the repulsive one.

***{No. Franklin's postulated electrical fluid required an excess of the
fluid in one body and a deficiency in the other, for attraction to
occur. He never, to my knowledge, speculated that the attractive force
very slightly exceeded the repulsive force, thereby explaining the
gravitational attraction between neutral masses.

Almost exactly the same words are in our book.

If you think I am wrong about that, please cite a reference. I consider
Franklin to have been a
genius, without a doubt, but the possibility that his genius reached the
level

He does.

you are suggesting does not seem plausible to me. I am, of course,
open to being proven wrong, if you can find an appropriate reference.
--MJ}***

Here are: Jan Weyssenhoof. Zasady Elektromagnetyki i Optyki klasycznej.
Warszawa 1957 (page 36)

In free tame I try find in German or English.

I promised to consider the other idea. I was thinking about Aepinus-
Franklin theory. It seems that the experiment is adequate to prove this
theory. Tomorrow I will send more.

Today I sent one question to the author. I am waiting. I hope he do not
ignored me.


***{The experiment to which you refer had too many uncontrolled
variables to prove much of anything, in my opinion. --MJ}***

The experiment is qualitative. My explanation too.
Next will be time for mathematical calculations and measurements.
S*



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