Re: magnetmotor



gdewilde@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 9, 1:22 am, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddled...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1170980419.034782.314...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,



"gdewi...@xxxxxxxxx" <gdewi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 9, 12:53 am, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddled...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <pGOyh.383140$1i1.177145@attbi_s72>,
Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Putting my words on your website without my permission, I see.
Get them off!
-Sam Wormley
So he's a plagarist too. Bad Gaby, you're supposed to ask permission before
doing that.
More intellectual dishonesty!
Your reviews are important to show how real scientists respond to
ideas.
What happened to ASKING FIRST?

--
<-Coffee Boy-> = Preferably white, with two sugars
Saucerheads - denying the blatantly obvious since 2000.

look here:

Its hard to believe you're not an imbecile. You seem obsessed that science is
writen by the most genteel, not the most accurate,

This shtick about diacriticals and deliberate dyslexia is pretty lame. It does
nothing to hide your ignorance.

first you talk rubbish and insult me. I don't care but you did.

Then you copy a whole webpage of mine without source!

I find this hysterical - from this guys blog

unified apocalyptic theory
December 24th, 2006 by gaby
It¹s far worse, people are not fools, they are sheep. The most important
subjects can not even be discussed. I¹m not even sure if I can myself.
Lets make the reallyÅ reallyÅ . reallyÅ .. long story shortÅ ..
Only a huge invention can steer our titanic around the iceberg we are heading
towards. Mankind desperately needs some incredibly efficient power source.
I don¹t want to talk about theater wars, over population, global diseases, the
dollar going kaput, oil running out etc wtc etc.
Second of all it¹s much to upsetting and First of all it all boils down to the
same thing.
Do you think we can live on this planet with 50 000 000 000 without any
industry? What kind of life expectancy do the survivors have in a world of
corpses? Would you want to live in that place?
I present to you the unified apocalyptic theory
First of all, we are perfectly happy it¹s all going to end, it was all planed
this way by ourselves.
The theory prescribes it¹s better to list previous civilisations and the
disasters they didn¹t survive. As it is to look for an actual solution. We cant
argue with the planning of our fellow man.
When we argue there is so much historical events of hightech civilizations
doing the self-destructo-polonaise we have evident prove self destruction is
inevitable on our side.
People who argue it isn¹t so are to be made fun of. They cant come up with a
shred of proof.
This makes the UAT teh supreme theory.

and again!

http://www.crank.net/perpetual.html

http://www.jimloy.com/physics/perpet.htm

http://www.wondermagnet.com/magfaq.html#q17

Why won't my perpetual motion machine work?

Perpetual motion machines are one of the true holy grails of physics;
unfortunately, perpetual motion machines do NOT EXIST according to the
currently accepted theories. They are denied by the Three Laws of
Thermodynamics, which are proven by statistical mechanics, which is derived
from quantum mechanics, which has been verified experimentally enough that it
would be silly to deny it!

The First Law of Thermodynamics states that Energy is Conserved. This means
that the total energy of a closed system must remain constant. The universe,
considered as a closed system, thus has constant energy.

Energy exists in many forms: as heat, kinetic (motion) energy, and potential
(gravitational, electric, and magnetic) energy, to name a few. The energy can
change from one form to another. It can also pass from one system to another.

Still, the total energy of a closed system will always be constant. You can
neither create nor destroy energy; it always moves elsewhere.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that The entropy of a closed system
must always increase. The entropy is a measure of the disorder of a system. If
you consider the universe itself as a closed system, then the entropy of the
universe must always increase. Therefore, the universe is continually moving
towards a state of greater disorder!

Consider a glass of water, sitting initially on a table. You decide to push it
off the edge and it shatters into fragments. It is now in a more disordered
state, so it has greater entropy. The process can never reverse itself; you
can't reassemble the glass and put the water back in it.

Now a perpetual motion machine has, by definition, moving parts. The motion
results in the transfer of heat through friction and air resistance. This
results in a loss of energy by the device; the First Law implies that the total
energy of the universe is conserved, so the energy is actually being
transferred elsewhere.

Assuming you don't add energy to this system, its energy will continually
decrease and its entropy will likewise increase. Eventually it will slow and
stop. Therefore, there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.

However, you're welcome to try...

so what are you talking aobut?


Gaby, did you know your Canon PowerShot A80 obeys the second law of
thermodynamics?



.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: question about entropy
    ... > say that in a very general sense, entropy is the measure of local ... > variations in the energy level of a the universe as a whole? ... As a whole in a closed system over time, ... > intropy on a local level. ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: magnetmotor
    ... The First Law of Thermodynamics states that Energy is Conserved. ... that the total energy of a closed system must remain constant. ... The entropy is a measure of the disorder of a system. ... Now a perpetual motion machine has, by definition, moving parts. ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: Am I Having a Saturday Morning Stupid Moment?
    ... It would violate conservation of energy. ... but that does not make it a closed system. ... The government spends some of your tax money on building a wall ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
  • Re: Darwinian Mechanism of Mutation and Natural Selection Found Lacking
    ... A "closed system" is a useful tool in Thermodynamics and it is ... do indicate a long-term energy storage from Sun, ... it would create more disorder by increasing ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Commentary: Creationism - How Entropy challenges Evolution Theory
    ... the law of entropy upon the theory of evolution. ... entropy does occur in open systems such as our Earth. ... It doesn't matter whether a system is open (with unlimited energy) ... entropy is more so saying that a closed system will ...
    (talk.origins)