Re: mass of the photon
- From: "tony fleming" <tfleming1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 9 Feb 2007 20:45:07 -0800
On Feb 9, 8:05 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:35 pm, "tony fleming" <tflemi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 7, 1:18 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
QED, which is the most precisely tested theory of any kind ever,
accounts for pair-production in a much simpler way than the break-up
into composites that you propose. If you want to understand how QED
does this, both qualitatively and in full quantitative detail, then I
suggest you dive into two books to start:
QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter, by Richard Feynman
Introduction to High Energy Physics, by Donald Perkins, especially
chapters 1, 2, and 5.
PD
Many thanks, I only have a basic working knowledge of QED including
Feynman's work (via his famous 3 physics books and some other
writings); maybe I understand the maths more than the applications.
Sorry, Tony, I've got some bad news. The 3 famous physics books that
Feynman wrote are for *freshman* class in physics. In between those
books and a "basic working knowledge" of QED, you will need additional
materials:
- two courses in classical mechanics, including Lagrangian and
Hamiltonian formulations
- at least one intermediate course in electrodynamics, including the
covariant form of Maxwell's equations
- at least one intermediate course in quantum mechanics, including
detailed work with solutions of the Dirac equation and pertubative
methods
- an advanced course in quantum field theory, including 2nd
quantization and renormalization.
PD an inch doesn't mean a mile, one has to crawl before one walks!!
I'm aware of Feynman, believe me. I'm across many many areas of QM,
QED and QCD especially the mathematics. I was taught QM as an
undergraduate in the '60s and 70's. Obviously I'm only one little
human bean, so a working, PROFESSIONAL knowledge excapes me in many
areas such as particle physics. But I am a very experienced
professional mathematician and engineer with a background in numerical
modelling, antennas, radiation protection, bioeffects of EMR, and
medical applications of bioelectromagnetics. I'm not shy to admit my
lack of knowledge as I come across something new.
The new mathematics of SFT allows me another fresh view to many
physics vistas as I come across them. You can read the paper on the
hydrogen atom at http://www.unifiedphysics.com/latest_news.htm. Read
this to understand how self-field theory and quantum mechanics tie in
together. You'll also see how SFT leads to a set of equations INSIDE
THE NUCLEUS!! a set of modifed maxwellian equations that give an
eigenvalue solution for the proton that can sit inside a composite
model of the hydrogen atom. This is revolutionary and will form a new
approach to nuclear physics as we progress.
The latest, and most interesting line of research, thanks to your
question about pair-production and anihhilation, appears to be the
link between the energetic photon and its sub-photonic field, the
electron and the positron. What I've found is exciting in that
there's a link between the ionizing potential of the hydrogen atom and
the energy required for pair production of teh positron and electron.
m_electron * velocity_electron^2 = 13.6 eV (1)
m_electron *velocity_photont^2 = 0.511 MeV (2)
It seems to me that m_photon*velocity_photon^2 + 1/2 photonic binding
energy for (2) = 0.511 MeV
I can't find any corresponding quantum theory apart from some very
hand-wavy stuff concerning Hawking's cosmological quantum graivity.
I'm not saying there ain't some good theopry somewhere I've not found
any of it that's all. You suggested recently to me that such a
theoretical approach is available. I'd be very grateful if you could
give me a link to such a theoretical discussion.
Im interesting in how quarks and gluons may ALSO be involved in such
productions.
I do have perkins btw, a very good book.
What i;m thinking with the pair-production via SFT is similar to the
early work on the ionization of hydrogen as an infinite series
solution to the Balmer series solution. We do suspect that there is a
'Balmer-like' analytic solution to the spectroscopy of the photon
What spectroscopy of the photon? Do you know if data that I'm not
aware of?
Take a look at the pdf at
www.cymatherapy.com/pdfs/A%20Predicted%20Photon%20Chemistry.pdf
This names a few including the ionospheric layers, snowflakes, teh
structure of DNA, etc.
which will give us a series of frequencies that hopefully will tie in
with the acoustic work we are doing. That is why we needed the
analytic expression for the photon's mass, 'cos this leads (almost)
directly on to the photon spectroscopy. So I've worked out the
photon's 'Balmer series' assuming the mass of the photon.
What it seems to me is if I'm understanding the internal dynamics of
the photon correctly is that the binding energy inside the photon
STAYS with the photon's sub-particles (I call these the ephectron and
the phroton) AFTER the pair-production, so that the
ephectron + half the binding energy ---> electron (+momentum)
phroton + half the binding energy ---> phroton (-momentum)
Actually we see a similar in SFT thing INSIDE the nucleus where it
appears the neutrino + electron can decay transforming a neutron into
a proton. So it appears that the neutrino WAS a binding field that
turns into a particle (in this case the neutrino WAS the binding
field). Same as with the pair production where a binding field
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