Re: Anti-gravitational effects demonstrated using a Van De Graaf generator



On Feb 22, 5:46 am, rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 22, 5:16 am, rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:



On Feb 22, 5:06 am, rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Feb 22, 4:43 am, rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

But little charged particles, gravitons, are not the cause.

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf067/sf067a08.htm

A bit more...

Here you can see, some of those currents,http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/ga2cwall.jpg

you can see that galaxies are in clusters,

now with an attractive gravity, in a homogeneous universe
things on that scale, would be rounder, the galaxies in rounder
clumps.

Inertia, or the mass of an atom, is that expansion,
in 4D. space-time.

Given no outside influence, one atom in the void,
it would be in one spot. Not moving horizontally
or vertically, and in fact, because it has some force,
forcing it outward, G, that would tend to make it resist
some force from a horizontal or vertical direction.
Its intrinsic mass, resisting outside force.

So combine the atoms, into a planet, and it is round,
still expanding in unison, and resisting, pressure
from solar wind, but falling towards the sun,
as the space between the earth and the sun,
shrinks.

The outward expansion, tends to make things spin,
and if you examine the old universe, old galaxies,
say from a 2 billion year old universe, the universe
was not as homogeneous in pressure, so things
expanded like they were exploding out, with less
resistance.

But in a 14 billion year old universe, galaxies become
spiral galaxies, as the universal pressure is more
homogeneous.

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1994/52/image/c/

An asteroid, with insufficient mass, is not usually round,
but a planet, with sufficient mass, and age, is usually round,
because the combined expansion, of each atom, homogenizes,
the mass, so that it ends up more round, and round,
is the path of least resistance, also, because it will spin,
and it will rotate, around the sun, and all these things,
bleed off that energy, caused by resistance.

It is a very complex system, when you consider centripetal
force, and all the factors, so it is no wonder, that it took a great
genius, like Einstein, to see that Newtonian gravity was close,
that an attractive universal gravity, was a close approximation,
but it did not explain everything.
And spooky action at a distance, would have to be really
spooky, for gravity to surpass c. It would have to be
instantaneous. But in a way, it is instantaneous, in that
at one point in the universe, the universe is expanding
at the same rate as another. So their commonality,
is what provides simultaneity. But only a common purpose,
which expands the universe shrinking the empty space
between things. But the energy of matter, repelling all other
matter it can effect with em waves within its range.

And when that energy finally does get played out,
then will be the heat death, of the universe.

Now things are so finely balanced, between the expansion,
of the universe, and the repulsive force that dark energy
exuded from matter, has on other matter, that a moon,
like ours, can appear to be falling towards the earth,
as the space shrinks between them, and yet is pushed
away, by the repulsive force, the pressure of dark energy,
so it stays in orbit.

And tidally locked as well.

Moving away at a mere meter per year.

Another curious part of that dark energy being that it comes
as a wave, and waves can cancel out, and if they do,
you get a low pressure area, or they combine, to give you
a high pressure area, attractive and repellent forces, but
all in all, those waves are coming out, from the atom,
so although some will cancel out, right away even, and
form the covalent bond of matter, most of that energy
will go out, and repel other matter keeping the moon,
from crashing into the earth, but falling in a geodesic.

That dark energy, is like the energy you feel when you bring
to like poles of a magnet together.
You can feel it, spongy, cushiony, but switch one pole,
and click, right away, the poles come together.
The waves cancel out.

We suspect, that there is a great deal of dark energy in the universe.

Einstein never got as far as dark energy.
He instead, knew that it must exist,
and came up with the cosmological constant,
because without it, his equations didn't work.

So he had the foresight, to know what he was looking for,
but science had not progressed to the point where
we could examine atoms in detail, under a scanning
tunneling microscope.

He knew about Brownian motion, he won his Nobel for that,
he could see, these specks being moved around bombarded
by other specs, being hit by something, some sort of quanta,
and he knew about Einstein Bose condensate,
and how waves can cancel out, to reduce that vibrational energy,
but never quite got to dark energy.

He even knew that gravity waves must exist.

He was all over it, but never quite put the final pieces
together and that is why some people say that GR is
an incomplete theory, and why people say they are
still looking for a quantum theory of gravity.

That is to say, as if gravity, was a force, like the other forces.
But its not.
The other forces are em forces, even the nuclear force,
is just that same wave energy closer in to the nucleus,
hence stronger,
but gravity, is the universe itself, and all matter in it,
expanding into the void.

If you were to speak of one quanta of gravity, like
one wave packet, of that force, then it would be,
along the t axis, universal time is all from the center
of an atom, to the radius, of an atom, that is the
direction the universe expands, and that expansion
is universal time, and one quanta of energy,
would be some derivative along that line of Plank's
constant, with a wave of energy traveling at c.
At least that is what you would expect.
And you would expect to approximate G as the force
of expansion.

The reason that Einstein just couldn't see that
last bit, that dark energy, was simple.

Firstly, if you are on one of those balloons in
the above gedanken, how can you prove,
that the balloon is expanding?
Its expanding into hyperspace but so is your ruler,
and you.

You could maybe, try to stop one of the balloons
from expanding to see what happens I suppose.

Lets say you could take a circle of dynamite around
it and explode it, and try, to prevent it, from
expanding.

Yes there was something else he was good at e=mc2
but on another note, did you hear that we finally
got sophisticated enough to detect radio signals,
from space, from other civilizations like ours?
Mm hm, we can't make it public though,
because they are all crying for help.
lol

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