Re: Highest Acoustic Atmospheric Frequency?



In sci.physics, Sam Wormley
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on Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:04:37 GMT
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, Sam Wormley
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wrote
on Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:27:55 GMT
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Radium wrote:
On Mar 30, 10:25 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What makes you think there is a limit?
Huh? There is no limit?

There are practical limits such as sound generation, attenuation, etc.
But as long as the sound wavelength is >> than the size of the medium
constituents of it is propagating through...

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Ultrasonics/cc_ut_index.htm
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/topics/Acoustics.html

This would make for a practical limit of about 10^-10 m (the size of an
atom). Since sound speed is about 331.4 m/s at 0 degrees Celsius, the
maximum frequency would therefore be on the order of 3.314 teraHertz.

I'd have to look regarding intermolecular distance, which would give
another, lower, limit.


About a factor of a thousand lower.
:-)

Wouldn't surprise me. A cubic meter of air is about 41 moles. That
same cubic meter of air, liquefied, would occupy about 1.2 liters
or 1.2 * 10^-3 m^3. (Maybe not quite that, as I'm assuming the same
density as water.) This suggests that the molecule-to-molecule distance
might be about 10 molecules in width, for a maximum frequency of 331 GHz.

Give or take.

Of course this shouldn't be that difficult to measure directly.
Computers routinely generate signals of more than 3 GHz (if one has
a modern processor) and the overtones shouldn't be too hard to filter
out and drive something along the lines of a speaker coil.

So color me slightly curious. :-)

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