Re: Quantum physics says goodbye to reality ["hidden variables"]
- From: Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:37:55 GMT
On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:59:53 -0700) it happened The Ghost In The
Machine <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
<9i3qf4-cnb.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
In sci.physics, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote
on Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:57:13 GMT
<f0dja1$vbl$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:16:43 GMT) it happened Sam Wormley
<swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in <%FrWh.68860$_c5.55873@attbi_s22>:
You don't understand relativity, do you, Jan?
It is not a good idea to try to understand nonsense.
The assumption nothing > c is just that much: an assumption.
The math we did in school for that, many years ago, and any 5 year old can do.
The application of math is slightly harder.
And to understand what you are applying it too even more so.
There is nothing to 'understand' in relativity, it is a math model,
it does _not_ provide an explanation or even mechanism, and as such is
worth nopes.
It reminds me of that joke of the 3 idiots, where the guy gives the right
answer based on the wrong reasoning.
Dead and street.
Explain then why the operational beam revolution frequency
of the Large Hadron Collider is not several megahertz,
but only 11.245 kHz, despite the proton energy being many
many times more than 1 1/2 m_p c^2.
Table 2.4 in
https://edms.cern.ch/file/445830/5/Vol_1_Chapter_2.pdf
Because you cannot move something to faster then c relative to you, by an EM
field related to you, as the EM moves itself at c..
No matter how high the waves are, the surfer cannot move faster then the
wave front, but will seem to arrive a little bit earlier on a steep wavefront.
Anyways the whole thing (collider) is calculated with <c in mind, and as such
will never do anything for physics except create jobs and suck energy, heat up
the earth, cause global flooding and kill ye all ;-)
As to understanding nonsense, if somebody came up to Sam and
stated: 2 + 2 = 5, and Sam would say: I cannot understand this...
Then the person would show him a box, throw in 4 balls and out came 5...
and *IF* Sam was to wake up the next morning and say to himself :
'OK now I understand this, 2 + 2 = 5, I have seen proof',
he would need help.
You buy all that stuff, look a bit deeper then the show, and look for the magicians trick.
.
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