Re: Conservation of angular momentum
- From: Peter <Poakfield@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 30 May 2007 06:00:11 -0700
On May 29, 6:17 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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: On May 29, 3:16 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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: > : On May 29, 1:56 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > : > "Peter" <Poakfi...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: > : > : On May 28, 4:30 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > : > : > "The Ghost In The Machine" <e...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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: > : > : > : In sci.physics, Peter
: > : > : > : <Poakfi...@xxxxxxx>
: > : > : > : wrote
: > : > : > : on 27 May 2007 17:03:26 -0700
: > : > : > : <1180310606.157491.120...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
: > : > : > : > On May 27, 7:29 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > wrote:
: > : > : > : >> "Peter" <Poakfi...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > :
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: > : > : > : >> :Momentumis mv, and it may be rectilinear or curvilinear.
In
: > : > : > : >> : rectilinear motion, its direction does not change, of
course;
: > in
: > : > : > : >> : curvilinear motion, it changes continuously. There are
many
: > : > systems
: > : > : > : >> : (machines) where mv changes from rectilinear to
curvilinear
: > and
: > : > vice
: > : > : > : >> : versa. We cannot callmomentumthings that are not mv; we
: > should
: > : > call
: > : > : > : >> : them something else.
: > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : >> Yes, you have a point.
: > : > : > : >>Angularmomentumis called... err... wait, it's coming...
err...
: > : > : > : >> it's on the tip of my tongue, bear with me... err... let me
: > : > think...
: > : > : > : >> err... yes, I have it...it's called "glosipnurt",
Pokefield.
: > : > : > : >> That makes it different to "momentum", it is "something
else".
: > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : >> Really, whether one calls a football a ball or a dance a
ball,
: > a
: > : > ball
: > : > : > : >> is a ball is a ball. "We" should call it a ball, and "we"
do.
: > : > : > : >> "You" need to learn what "we" mean, Pokefield, "we" are not
: > : > : > : >> changing English to suit other people, but just for you (as
a
: > : > : > : >> very special person),angularmomentumis called "glosipnurt"
: > : > : > : >> by my decree.
: > : > : > : >> Please refer to non-mv as glosipnurt in future
correspondence.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Sorry. You missed the point.Angularmomentumis correct: it is
the
: > : > : > : >momentummv of an object whose motion is not rectilinear.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Erm....isn't it more like I * omega, where I is the moment of
: > inertia
: > : > : > : and omega the rotation speed?
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > Wow... that might work. Now, what about this comet?
: > : > : >
: > : > : > http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/sl9.html
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Is it gaining or losingmomentum?
: > : > :
: > : > : Linear/angularmomentumis always conserved.
: > : >
: > : > Mass remains constant, velocity changes in any Keplerian orbit
: > : > with eccentricity > 0. The comet's glosipnurt changes, therefore it
: > : > isn't conserved. How does that work then, Pokefield? :-)
: > :
: > : I am not Pokefield; you got that wrong too.Angularmomentumin other
: > : than circular orbits is not conserved.
: > :
: > Oh yes it is. Linear/angularmomentumis always conserved. How does that
: > work then, Pokefun? :-)
:
: Are you funny! :-)
Yes!, of! course! I! am!, I! added! a! smiley! to! show! I! was!. Would!
you! like!
an! exclamation! mark! as! well!?
My apologies for getting your name wrong, Pokefield sounds just like
Poakfield
where I live, although I understand that in Western Pennsylvania vowels are
added, "hand" is pronounced "he-and".
Now let's get back to the more serious (sorry, sear-E-us) subject, you need
not answer a question with a question.
I said:
Oh yes it is. Linear/angularmomentumis always conserved. How does that
work then, Pokefun? :-)
Linear and angular momentum are both vectors, true vectors. Don't you
think they are, or should be?
My name is P. Oakfield. What is yours?
Peter
.
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