Re: GreenHouse Gas, H2O?

On Jun 2, 12:52 am, "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bia...@xxxxx> wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrotenews:1180716279.262832.225620@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



CO2 seems to minor player, check out H2O,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

Have any of you guys ever been to the US?
Well we've driven across it quite a few times,
and I was really impressed by their sprinklers,
I'm talking big farms. Another thing I noticed on
hot days was the air was sticky, quite humid,
now I wonder how much that contributes to
global humidity. Have a look at the humidity
graph for Boulder Colorado in the above link.

1 gallon of heptane C7 H16 => a few gallons
of CO2 and H20 when burned.

How does that compare to 1 little old farm pumping
out 1000's of gallons a day of H20 as water vapor?

The "Governator" (Schwarznegger) is encouraging
Calf. to switch to the "Hydrogen Economy" but,
that move won't put a dent in greenhouse gases,
because H2O is a comparable GreenHouse Gas, (GHG).
(The actually spectral physics of H2O vs CO2 as
being what's worse is a tough call).

It's more than Joe farmers sprinkler, many thousands
of processes dump stream into the atmosphere,
examples like steel production and nuclear reactor
stacks. ((Nuclear reactor stack clouds are nifty to see
from an airplane, they look like mushroom clouds)).

If we integrate the H2O human activity adds to GHG's,
CO2 is a drop in the bucket (pun intended).

Ladies and Gents we need to understand H2O better.

Ladies and Gents understand H2O satisfactorily. See:http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/531/2

Interesting article. I'd like to suggest a few points,
see what you guys think,

1) Warmer air can hold more water vapor.

2) The water cycle of evaporation to rain is powered
by the Sun.

3) As the Sun warms up it warms up the Earth and
the water cycle is energized.

4) An energized water cycle results from a warm Sun.

5) Water vapor is a GreenHouse Gas.

That's to start...let's look at Dr. Bialek's other points.

They should understand better the SO2 and fly ash. You have more water in
the air (sticky) because in the air is lack of the natural nuclei for rain:
SO2 and fly ash. They are removed from the smoke in the all wealthy country.

I think your thesis is that pollution dry's the air by
providing "nucleating dust" for rain and snow, that's
agreeable, so we have a complicating factor like,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo#Global_effects

So you have clean air but sticky.

6) At some point, the energized water cycle should
produce a "negative" feed-back" by increased cloud
that reflects sunlight.

7) Dr. Bialek points out that pollution (dust) is rather
like "cloud seeding" effectively destroying clouds and
partially inhibiting the negative feed-back that clouds
provide to cool the Earth.

Regards
S*

Thanks and Regards
Ken S. Tucker

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