Re: Maybe my last post to sci.physics 8^(
- From: "hhc314@xxxxxxxxx" <hhc314@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:27:09 -0700
On Jul 3, 4:41 pm, andy everett <vze2q...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe my last post to sci.physics 8^(
Should be on a plane to Korea tonight and if it comes down hard and I
become fishfood I would like to both say goodby to sci.physics and put
down some unfinished thoughts.
I have "gone down the drain" many years ago,
http://myridedownfeynmansdrain.netfirms.com/main.html
The books have been closed for too many years and thoughts have been
elsewhere, the question remains unanswered (maybe unanswerable).
"One might still like to ask: "How does it work? What is the machinery
behind the law?" No one has found any machinery behind the law. No one
can "explain" any more than we have just "explained". No one will give
you any deeper representation of the situation. We have no ideas about a
more basic mechanism from which these results can be deduced. ... And no
one has figured a way out of this puzzle. So at the present time we must
limit ourselves to computing probabilities. We say "at the present
time," but we suspect very strongly that it is something that will be
with us forever--that it is impossible to beat that puzzle--that this is
the way nature really is." (The Feynman Lectures on Physics, Vol. III,
page 1-10.)
"...Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it, "But
how can it be like that?' because you will get "down the drain" into a
blind alley from which nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can
be like that." (Taken from "The transactional interpretation of quantum
mechanics" by John G. Cramer, in Reviews of Modern Physics, Volume 58,
Number 3, July 1986, page 647, which in turn was quoted from "The
Character of Physical Law" by R. P. Feynman, page 129.)
This I believe was Feynman's challenge to us, come up with a mental
picture of spacetime and matter that implies the present mathematical
physics which very correctly describes nature ( well, they are still
working on quantum gravity)and in doing so figure out "How it does work".
Things to think about ( please post what you consider clues to solving
this puzzle).
De Broglie's thesis,
From:http://www.davis-inc.com/physics/
"First, he assumed that there is always associated with a particle of
mass m a periodic internal phenomenon of frequency ƒ [ƒ, rather than the
traditional Greek letter "nu", is used here for purposes of
compatibility with web browsers]. For a particle at rest, he equated
the rest mass energy mc² to the energy of the quantum of the
electromagnetic field hƒ. "
Starting with this we get the quantum mechanics of a single particle,
very good.
http://tinyurl.com/3yz25d
But how do you extend this idea to a cluster of particles such as a
large molecule which exhibets interference? Many "internal clocks" which
somehow act together for purposes of interference of a clock with
frequency related to the total energy. Is this also somehow related to
how total angular momentum is quantized? Is this a property of space or
of matter.
oh ***, gota go.
Hey Andy, best of luck on your trip to Korea, although unless a Korean
War Vet, I have absolutely no idea why you would want to travel there,
just as I have no idea why you appear to misunderstand the clear
message and nature of the Feynman lectures. Has it excaped you that
these lectures were delivered to an undergraduate class, or his
purpose in doing so?
I believe that you are mixing the content of the Feynman lectures with
some speculative or pseudo scientific agenda crap, which was not the
'Bongo King's' agenda.
Learn some physics. Feynman never believe anything like this, EVER...
"First, he assumed that there is always associated with a particle of
mass m a periodic internal phenomenon of frequency ƒ [ƒ, rather than the
traditional Greek letter "nu", is used here for purposes of
compatibility with web browsers]. For a particle at rest, he equated
the rest mass energy mc² to the energy of the quantum of the
electromagnetic field hƒ. "
Absolute nonsense. You're obviously cofunfusing Max Planct with
Feynman, and throwing in a lot of meaningless bull*** on top of it.
You obviously have never found you way through even an introductory
college level course in physics, and as near as I can tell, never
will.
Have fun in Korea, and if you like it there, please make it your home.
Harry C.
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