Re: Cosmic collision may shed light on dark matter


"BradGuth" <bradguth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Aug 24, 9:08 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[Astronomy]
Separation Anxiety: Cosmic collision may shed light on dark matter
The debris from an ancient collision of galaxy clusters seems to show
cosmic dark matter behaving in a puzzling way.
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070825/fob5.asp

For one thing, any such cosmic collisions sort of nullifies the all
inclusive BB and forever expanding theory, doesn't it.

How many rogue planets and/or rogue proto-moons were created by such
cosmic collisions?
- Brad Guth

Put your thinking cap on. Those visible galaxies reflect time now (0)
minus 2.5 billion years (loosely grouped at minus 2.5 billion years). There
is no matter, mass, energy, gravity or gravitational signature to the
visible. All of it, sticking strictly to this case, but the visible is
[loosely] 2.5 billion years advanced (+) beyond that (-) 2.5 billion years.
We are learning a thing or two about gravity, or rather gravitational
signature (in these cases), and the 'simultaneous' universe.

I see it as a universe gradually over time being realized to be far more
'space-time' dimensional than astronomers, cosmologists and physicists
thought before...to our local view of it, that is; and thanks to the greater
reach of gravitational signatures than probably realized possible before.
Though they aren't ready to accept anything like hyper-spatial time, or
overlapping -- more than 4-d -- multi-dimensional 'space-time', existing as
of yet despite all the conceptional talk concerning the possibility. They,
in their mind's eye, can't seem to keep a division going between past (-),
future (+), and present (0), which when you can overlap them -- overlay
them -- becomes a multiplication of dimensionality.

I read long years ago how much astronomers, and cosmologists and
physicists in general, were stunned by the clarity of the distant universe
picture they were getting. They expected a far more complex and chaotic
picture than they were seeing. Now they have that far more complex and
chaotic picture at hand, as once expected, and it's stunningly confusing
them. "Go figure," as the saying goes.

Some time down the road soon they are going to start realizing they never
really understood relativity. Because of the way their minds work they would
misunderstand it. What's more, for philosophical, ideological, and
psychological reasons, they went beyond the line of misunderstanding into
the never-never land of trying extremely hard to dis-understand it (sic).
They worked very hard at trying to dis-understand it. Witness that at least
most of them still are working just as hard as they can to continue to
dis-understand it.

The Universe seems to deal leniently with misunderstandings. It will let
misunderstanding down easy. I know that for a fact. But it will always
sledgehammer dis-understanding. That I've seen around me, and see around,
consistantly, and already know to be a constancy from all my study of
history. It's something that can be banked on, so to speak.

It doesn't nullify the picture so much as it reworks it. Something I for
one have already done in doing a merger of the distant macroscopic Big Bang
theoretical picture with the equally distant microscopic Planck theoretical
picture into one and the same 'constant' picture. I've long dealt in the
distant relatively futuristic-like complex, chaotic, "shadowlands" of the
simultaneous "now" universe. I thought then that I might have an ally show
up one day in the form of gravity and gravitational signatures.

Take a *** of paper and draw a straight line down the middle of it as a
'time-line'. At the top of the paper next to the line, put '2.5 billion
B.C.E.' At the bottom of the paper next to the line, write 'NOW!' Pick up
the paper, turn it 90 degrees holding it out flat in both hands and turning
it put the edge '2.5 billion BCE' against your chest, 'NOW!' then being
farthest out from you as you hold the paper straight and flat in your hands.
You now have a mental picture of how all "information transmission" works in
the universe. You now have a clearer picture of what you see when you see
anything at all any distance from you, particularly anything you will see in
any direction you, or the Hubble telescope, or even a microscope of anykind,
will look toward in the universe. You now also have a clearer picture of the
'space-time' line you, or anyone or anything else, travels when you, they or
it travel.

That line is a light time line. The 'NOW!' at the other end from you has a
gravitational signature you can detect as a gravitational signature but only
observe in the universe indirectly, thanks to that graviatational signature.
You exist simultaneously with all the actual 'light' existing all along the
line and with the 'NOW!' at the other end of the line, but with none
whatsoever of the 'times' written anywhere at all along the line except,
again, with the 'NOW!' written at the other end of the line from the '2.5
billion BCE' end you are now holding against your chest. You could erase and
rework the '2.5 billion BCE' to '1.3 sec BCE', about the light time distance
from Earth's Moon to you, and it still works the same. Imagining any light
time figure at all being the figure at the end of the line held against your
chest, you just begin to get the picture, and the potential dimensions, of
complexity...and chaos.

GLB


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