Re: 'one small step'- said twice

On Oct 8, 2:43 am, Benj <bjac...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Calvin wrote:
Why him? You're the one suggesting that the first moon landing
was faked. I worked at Goddard Space Flight Center from
Apollo 7 through Apollo 12. I and everyone I worked with would
have had to be in on the conspiracy, if the moon missions were
fakes. Yet none of us, nor anyone who worked at Houston, or
at Cape Canaveral, or at the worldwide tracking stations, has
ever stepped forward to expose the conspiracy, for 38 years
now. Isn't that interesting?

You mean all the guys still alive and who haven't "disappeared"
haven't stepped forward.

Give some evidence of the murders of thousands of people who
worked for NASA and the many private contractors. Over a
period of 10 years I worked for RCA, IBM, and Computer
Sciences on contracts involved with the Mercury, Gemini, and
Apollo projects, and knew many people who would be only too
happy to make public any conspiracy. I don't know of any of
them who have mysteriously died.

The "government can't keep a big secret" argument ranks right up there
with "Occam's Razor" as debunking nonsense. Never heard of the
"Manhattan project" I take it?

The Manhattan project involved few people relative to
the huge number who worked on the Apollo project, and
Manhattan was not kept secret for four decades.

NASA did not build and run the components of the Saturn V.
Many private contractors did that. NASA managed the
Apollo project (brilliantly, following the Apollo I fire), but
all of the contractors and their employers would have had to
be in on the conspiracy, and there's no way the government
could have murdered enough people to keep the conspiracy
secret among all those contractors for 38 years.

And no "everyone" would NOT have to be
in on the conspiracy. Never heard of "need to know" before either, I
take it.

Of course I've heard of 'need to know', but you act like you
haven't heard of common sense.

I have no idea of any space conspiracy or what it might entail. But
there sure is a lot of smoke related to this subject, and that makes
me start to suspect that there may be a bit of fire too.

No smoke. The first landing is 38 years in the past, making
it difficult for every detail to be remembered precisely by the
people involved. Conspiracy theorists take advantage of the
elapse of time to make all sorts of claims that can't be proved
or disproved.

I happen to
remember the moon landing and to the best of my recall, what I saw on
TV was actually NOT as the "official" footage shows. It was much more
like the faked version. By that I mean I recall him giving a little
"hop" down to the ground. The official version shows no "hop" The
faked version however in spite of the fact that the lights came down
proving it fake, also LOOKS fake because of the large high-gravity
"hop" to the ground by the astronaut.

I remember it too, but not the way you do. I also remember
the whole exciting experience at Goddard Space Flight Center,
where one of our functions was to provide a backup to Houston's
'Mission' system. Another of our functions was to collect and
pre-process and forward data, from tracking stations and ships
all over the world, to Houston in real-time. There are many
books you could read about those great times. It's a shame
that you focus your mind on trying to prove a lie.

My bottom line here is that something sure seems a bit fishy in this
moon business. My personal view is that a totally faked moon shot
seems a bit too dangerous for a government to pull. I mean if somehow
you were discovered there would be SERIOUS consequences of such a
failure. On the other hand, we already know that audio and probably
TV images from space projects were highly controlled and strictly
censored in many ways. My view, given the highly political position of
the moon landings in cold war propaganda, it is by NO means unlikely
that alternate faked audio and video was available and possibly even
broadcast in place of the real video (which was put back later)
because of the very negative cold war political consequences of a
possible moonshot failure. And if those kind of CIA games were being
played you KNOW they'd have to stay classified forever. No government
would EVER have the balls to reveal manipulation of the public on that
scale (even with a real moon shot also actually underway) just for
cold war politics. They couldn't even fess-up now with the USSR
crashed and burned. Eventually some historian may dig out some truth
but then again maybe not.

The truth is already well known, documented, and on the public
record in countless ways. The burden of proof is on people like
you to show otherwise, and you don't have a prayer at this point.
Maybe in a hundred years, when it is all more remote in time,
people like you will have some success. But right now too
many of us who were involved in one way or another are still
alive, and we're not about to cooperate with your lunacy.

.

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