Re: Atoms and Electromagnetic force
- From: "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:46:08 -0800 (PST)
On Dec 13, 6:59 pm, Igor <thoov...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 12, 6:43 pm, BURT <macromi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:59 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:26 pm, BURT <macromi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 10, 6:24 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 9, 9:02 pm, BURT <macromi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No one can explain how an EM field should build atomic shells or
orbitals.
Well, except everybody who ever worked out Schodinger's
equation for the electromagnetic potential.
- Randy
Please elabrate on this.
The Schodinger equation includes a term for potential
energy.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/schr.html
When you use the Coulomb potential for the
potential energy and solve the equation, you find that there
are only discrete solutions allowed at specific energies.
The numbering of these solutions (which are the allowed
states of the electron) gives rise to the familiar "shells"
(first quantum number n=1, 2, 3, ...) and "subshells"
(second quantum number, associated with "s", "p",
"d" and "f" subshells).
In fact no matter WHAT potential energy you put in,
the solutions for a bound particle are at discrete
energies.
An early success of the Schrodinger theory was that
the energy states it predicted for hydrogen agreed exactly
with the observed emission lines.
- Randy
Can you demonstrate an exaple of how Coulomb potential and potential
energy give quantized values as I cannot see it.
You solve the Schroedinger equation. And apparently, there's lots of
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the mathematical formulas and eqautions
are a 'supermarket of possibilites
they can turn a mouse to a cat
and vice versa!
morover:
the Shroedinger eqaution
is too poor to folow the huge complexity of possibilitles
that are in reality of heavy Atoms!
so please dont forget who told you that first
the existing equations
and evenbiggest current computers cannot still
compete with the human brain and its sophysications
of creativity
combinind different experimental data
in *in pfrecedented* ways
the formula is a dummy as well as the computer
the only realy thinking machine as is now
is the human brain!!
(provided that there is a brain not of a parrot...)
ATB
Y.Porat
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