Re: FYI - Long Term Future of GPS


"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:MSTqj.20898$9j6.16288@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Tom Potter wrote:

"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:q7Rqj.20571$yE1.11650@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Tom Potter wrote:

"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:_IFqj.19773$yE1.18457@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Long Term Future of GPS
http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-01-NTM/crews.pdf

Col. Mark Crews, U.S. Air Force

This briefing provides an update on the GPS
modernization program and provides a glimpse of
future capabilities beyond GPS III.

As can be seen by Sam's reference,
the thrust of America's future GPS effort
is directed toward getting Washington decision makers
to realize that the emerging GPS systems of Russia, Europe,
and China represent a serious threat to the $20,000,000,000.00
and rapidly growing commercial GPS market,
now dominated by America,

and that policies must be made to
hype the American GPS system,
and to get Russia, Europe and China to adopt America
standards for future generation GPS systems,
so that America will not be eliminated from the GPS markets
in the near future.

Don't mistake hype for reliable capability, Potter.
You froth so easily.

Wake up Sam!

The GPS system is accurate and reliable,

BUT.....

Europe, Russia, and China are launching their own
GPS systems, they, and all Muslim nations,
and many Latin American and African nations will
abandon the American system,

Why would they?

Do any other systems work?
Who's using these other systems?

because they don't trust America anymore,
as they fear that America might degrade the system at any time,
and create havoc for them, their planes, ships, vehicles,
and all the systems that depend upon the GPS System.

Bull*** on your part, Potter.

Unless something drastic is done:

1. American manufacturers will lose hundreds of
billions dollars in sales.

Not happening Potter!
GNSS receivers are built by companies all over
the world now!

2. The American military will not have a monopoly on
the world's navigation.

Interoperability will benefit even the military.

3. More GPS research and development will go into
non-American systems as that will be where the market is going.

GPS research and development has always been a global
phenomenon.

4. The American military will lose out
as more of the world's resources focus on non-American
GPS systems, and more devices, systems, software and techniques
are funneled into non-American systems.

The military loses nothing... there are no revenues
to the military.

The military found out that in house, Mil Spec devices
and systems cannot not compete with free market creativity,
and it now depends upon the use of free market devices
and systems. In ten years the military of the nations that
abandon the American GPS system will have more
devices, technology, software, and technology to play with,
and they will be able to manufacture weapon systems
that are faster, cheaper, lighter, more accurate,
and less affected by artifact.

The military loses nothing... there are no revenues
to the military. Get a grip Potter.

Anyone with a good reading comprehension can plainly see
that your reference indicates that the American GPS Guru's
are eyeball to eyeball to the other systems,
and they have blinked! ( And wisely so. )

You should read...

Long Term Future of GPS
http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-01-NTM/crews.pdf

Includes other GNSS signal info

Face the facts Sam.
Few nations in the world respect and trust America anymore.

They sure do invest in the US, Potter

GPS flight will compound Dollar flight
and national power flight.

Make your case!

Frankly, I don't think they will be able to
save the American GPS system,
and in ten or fifteen years it will be only used by the American
military, and it will be a more costly and less effective system.

Free to users world wide. Reliable and robust.

The smartest thing the American military can do,
is start hedging their bets, by adapting to the other systems.

Are there any other reliable working systems? Eh Potter?

First the world, and then Americans,
will migrate to the non-American GPS systems,
and unless they adapt, the American military will
be left with a costly, inferior system.

Free to users world wide. Reliable and robust.
Potter fails to grasp the most basic concepts.

Pity Potter!

Consider this Sammy, if you were a government leader in Russia, China, Japan, a Muslim nation, a Latin-American nation, an African nation, and even a European nation, and did not trust the American government and military, and you wanted to break up America's monopoly on the GPS system,

would you switch to a non-American GPS system. so that you wouldn't have to worry about some nut in the American government or the American military either disrupting all of your GPS-dependent system, or using the GPS system against you militarily,

or would you stick with the ***Military Controlled*** American GPS System?

Regarding Sammy's assertion:
The military loses nothing... there are no revenues to the military."

As I pointed out:

"The military found out that in house, Mil Spec devices
and systems cannot not compete with free market creativity,
and it now depends upon the use of free market devices
and systems. In ten years the military of the nations that
abandon the American GPS system will have more
devices, technology, software, and technology to play with,
and they will be able to manufacture weapon systems
that are faster, cheaper, lighter, more accurate,
and less affected by artifact."

If the American Government cannot convince Europe, Russia, and China to design their future systems to be compatible with America's system,

the systems will diverge in many ways, base frequencies, modulation, base time, pseudo codes, etc. and thus the antenna's, front ends (Radio frequency receivers), correlators, etc will be different,

and as most nations will migrate to *** non-military *** GPS systems, and eventually American consumers will follow because of the lower cost, and better performance, and the security of knowing that a government or military nut cannot disrupt their GPS system,

the American military will become the primary user of its own system, and most of the creative work on antennas, receivers, correlators, programs, chip sets, etc. will be done on non-military systems, and the American GPS system will fall behind in cost, performance, and general usefulness, and the American taxpayer will be forced to support an aging, outdated system used only be the military.

As can be seen from Sammy's reference, the GPS Gurus know that unless they can get Europe, Russia and China to adopt frequencies and techniques that permit the American GPS industry to piggy back on non-American GPS developments and manufacturing of antennas, transmitters, receivers, digital circuits, software, etc. that the America GPS system will fade away.

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Tom Potter

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