Re: Are Jews Destroying Objectivity in Science?

On Feb 13, 5:11 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 13, 8:37 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Eric (by the numbers): (1.) My odyssey isn't motivated to be for
"your enjoyment". But, ideally, you should be happier in a world
that's not tied to the status quo--after the status quo has been proved
wrong.

Wanna bet? I am greatly amused by your "seven year odyssey". Plus for
some reason it reminds me of the quotation "fools and kings rush in
where angels dare not tread." Can you name even one accomplishment on
your "seven year odyssey" other than amusing me? If not, then how can
you claim otherwise?

Do keep it up. I'm absolutely secure in the knowledge that you will
never be anything other than a nuisance at worse and a guilty pleasure
entertainment at best in the world of science.


(2.) If high school (or middle school) level understanding solves the
problems at hand, then where is the justification for 'higher'
education? Obviously, your ego has gotten a huge boost by getting
your BS in Physics. I commend your intellect! But I don't commend
you poo-pooing on my simple disproofs of Einstein, because such don't
elevate the egos of those who lay claim to understanding. It is said:
"Pride goeth before the fall." Show some humility, Eric; you'll have
more allies, then.

Oh! Super slam! You put quotes around 'higher'! I'm totally convinced
you aren't jealous!

Anyho, it is simply the case that there is more to physics than what
you have been exposed to. For a taste - calculate the spectra of
Hydrogen. Include fine and hyperfine corrections.


(3.) Have your found your first job yet?

Is it 1997 again?


(4.) In "NC Governor Should Resign Over Science" are numbers of
copies of my letters to universities, and others. I am neither
arrogant, nor lacking in communications skills. I would have loved to
answer questions! But all of those I have contacted have "zoned out"
to even the possibility that Einstein has been disproved. There are
just too many conflicts of interest out there for people to do the
moral things.http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/2e892...

Ignorance is not a form of knowing things. You are ignorant of basic
physics - I'm not talking about relativity, I'm talking about the
physics that's taught in highschool. You wouldn't make it past an
entrance exam.


(5.) Air Hockey isn't my game. But I can beat-the-socks-off-of-you
at Pool! If there is one area of physics at which I excel, it is
dynamics. And I excel at observing the laws of physics that apply in
our everyday lives. Ping-Pong balls aren't very good free drop test
objects because of their low specific gravity. But I have done
repeated stop watch tests of glass marbles dropped onto a (noisy)
metal plate. I was able to find enough drop height in the stairwell
of my home, and still have the adjustable release mechanism screwed to
a wall.

Christ on a crutch, that's what I get for assuming a modicum of
educatin' at your end. Use the air hockey table to collide stuff with
known masses. It's utterly trivial to test whether the standard
prescription for kinetic energy is valid at that level. Since you
excel at everyday physics, this should be trivial.

You may wish to look up what specific gravity actually means, and then
rephrase your complaint in a manner that makes sense to someone who
knows what those words mean.


(6.) Nowhere have I ever said that Einstein was born in America. But
to have lived here as long as he did, he picked up "the language" to
only a moron's level.

Care to share a sample of Einstein's writing that is verifiably his
that is obvious, to you, that he's writing at a "moron's level" ?

Or should I just take your word for it?


(7.) What is it about Air Hockey that "proves" Einstein? If there is
such a thing, students who are "goofing off" can claim to be...
verifying Einstein! Can you get college credit for Air Hockey?

What's rather amusing is that Einstein is actually irrelevant to
everything you have complained about so far.

Your beef is with classical mechanics. Which predates Einstein by a
looooong time.


(8.) The vertical component of all falling objects in near Earth free
fall plots as a parabola for distance/time. The rate of change of the
slope of a parabola is the rate of change of the velocity, and that is
a straight line! Draw tangents to the parabola at 1, 2, 3, and 4
seconds. During second 2, the velocity corresponding to that at the
end of second 1 will cause a COASTING component within second 2 that
accounts for 32.174 feet of fall distance during second 2. The
remaining fall distance during second 2 is an additional 16.087 feet,
matching the second 1 fall distance.

I did this in high school. Tell me something new.


Do the same thing for seconds 3 and 4, and there will always be
exactly 16.087 feet of additional fall distance above the COASTING
distance that is being carried over from the previous second. If you
deduct all of the COASTING distances, there is an effective uniform
increase in fall distances, exactly corresponding to the uniform
linear increase in the velocity of 32.174 ft. per sec. EACH second.
The latter is the definition of acceleration 'g'.

No, that is not how g is defined. Once again, g is an /acceleration/.
It is defined to be the acceleration a massive body feels at the
surface of the Earth, and it is derived from F = mMG/r^2.


(9.) If there is such a connection, would you please describe it is
floridly?

(10.) One man's trash is another man's riches! Throwing out things
of value, without consideration of the possible worth, still reflects
poorly on the person or business making that decision.

I'm sitting next to a 12 node computer cluster that I built out of
tossed computers.

It's currently crunching Einstein@home. The node that was your
namesake is now known as oscarnode9 since it really, really wasn't
worth the effort to hard-code node hostnames.



(11.) One way that I can disprove Einstein requires no formal
education whatsoever! Since SR has an exponential increase in E, with
respect to time--or is more in any second than in the former second--

The word you are looking for is "nonlinear". Until you have studied
calculus, the word "exponential" is verboten.

then such theory is disproved by showing that velocity increases
linearly for near Earth dropped objects, as I've explained above!

1) Who cares if it is nonlinear? That isn't a disproof of anything.
2) SR doesn't apply for falling objects.


Since uniform accelerations have uniform velocity increases, then
uniform accelerations will cause a constant push-you-back-in-your-seat
force when an airliner takes off. For brief periods a person feels
INCREASING pressure on the back, followed by a more or less uniform
pressure. Increasing pressure is acceleration of the acceleration and
plots as some segment of a parabolic curve. If, as Einstein thought
would always be the case, the a. of the a. continued indefinitely, the
person would be flattened like a pancake, and the propulsion power
would exceed that in the universe.

Neat. It looks like you were taught some very basic physics in
highschool and took that to be the word of god. Try to swallow the
fact that there is more to physics than what you were taught as a
kid.


But because it is possible to reach velocity 'c' without resorting to
accelerating the a. except for a few seconds at takeoff, then SR is
disproved!

Nope - it doesn't matter how you accelerate, you can't pass c in SR.
Why is it that folks like you can't be bothered to study the theories
you criticize?


(12.) Shame on them, if they did!

(13.) The space-time hokum is just an ANALOGY of the attractive
forces between objects. To suppose that a spaceship can move itself
forward just by warping space-time is like Huck Finn trying to propel
his wooden raft by blowing on his *** sail!

The discussion is irrelevant since the Alcubierre warp drive required
the existence of matter that can't exist. Which you would know if you
actually studied instead of whined.


(14.) Rightfully, any news that can profoundly affect the lives of
its readers, is a proper subject for newspapers! Having other outlets
that are corrupted by the selfish influences of universities (money
and vanity) is part of the wild-goose-chase that I have been on.
Sadly, getting out the news has become something that others must do,
first. And that attitude reflects the shameful mass-mindedness of the
media that will kill the USA quicker than our failed governments and
our failed systems of education!

Einstein could be turned over tomorrow and the general public wouldn't
notice or especially care.


Our founding fathers made "three separate but equal" branches. But
those three aren't worth a damn unless... "what is going on" can get
reported to the people! Our corrupt media is more concerned with
giving this... years-long, play-by-play description of "the game" of
politics, than it is in covering a range of important subjects like:
"Einstein's Theories Disproved!" "The score" in the game of politics
is based on NON democratic polls; staggered, and thus NON democratic
primaries and caucuses; and on the corrupting influences of the biased
commentators, all subtly trying to get "their" candidate elected--
counter to democracy at every turn!

Science isn't a democracy. Deal with it.


(15.) A columnist whose credentials are... "liberal arts", is credible
only if that person is objective regarding what gets written. K. C.
Cole has managed to get book publishers (Jews) and newspaper editors
(Jews) to pay her good money to write flowery, but errant descriptions
of nature. Of course 'that phony' couldn't be happy that she has been
called to task for what she has been getting paid to write. But her
corruption is her problem. I only discovered it. But it is she who
must atone for it.

Why don't you include a little diatribe about how much you don't like
jews in all your future correspondence? I'm sure that'll make everyone
more receptive to your ideas.


(16.) By osmosis, I have learned that Jews, collectively, are
notorious for throwing up this lame defense of their actions: They
claim that anyone who finds fault with them, or their actions, is anti-
Semitic. The most caring people are the ones likely to back off upon
hearing such a charge. Appropriately, others should be as just and as
harsh as necessary to be sure Jews behave civilly. But they often
don't. They believe they have rights which others aren't entitled to...
because of all of the travail in their long history.

Osmosis?

Again - I know what these words mean. Try again.


(17.) I know that at least four years of most "college graduates"
lives have been wasted in an education process, grade one to finish.
Universities care more about the ant-farm like processes than about
pragmatism. And they care about fielding winning ball teams, and such
necessitates having four years of... development.

A strong opinion for someone who has no university level education
experience.


(18.) As I am recommending, most textbooks should be cut to 40% of
their size. Of course, there is that "ego factor" of passing a course
with a thick textbook. But we need more people knowledgeable of the
basics, than we need those who have dabbled in the unneeded.

Oh, so you arbitrarily decided tossing 60% of a book's content is a
good idea regardless of its' content?

How generous of you. Feel free to start your own publishing company -
since your books will be 60% smaller, you can undercut all the other
publishers and make bank. Unless your missing something, like a clue.


(19.) "Without change there can be no progress." Too often the
second and later editions of texts don't weed out what was there that
was in error. In fact, except for grammatical, or small mathematical
errors, publishers won't change their texts. To do so would be to
say: "Hey! Look at us! What we published last year was wrong!" The
false pride of perfection... is killing education, and it is helping to
kill the USA.

What was the last physics textbook with multiple editions that you
studied which qualifies for all this whining?


(20.) In this modern age of digital printing, an "edition" could be
changed in a single book, on a single minute of a single day. You are
no expert on printing, but you bluff well.

So when a professor assigns the homework on page <whatever> and the
homework on multiple pages because the book has no version control,
what then? The system is the way it is now for a reason. It doesn't
matter whether you agree with the reason or not because you are not
and never will be in a position to change things.


(21.) The "key word" here is ...biased... universities. Thanks for
agreeing!

Like I said, it doesn't matter what I say.


(22.) How many courses in architecture (real world physics) have you
tried to take?

Architecture is not "real world physics".


(23.) My disproving of... "the simple" as you say, is most damning.
Aren't scientists supposed to know simple things, too?

Yes, and you haven't disproved anything. All you have done is setup an
asinine strawman representing what you /think/ is modern physics. You
beat on it real well, but nobody really cares.


(24.) It is I who am laughing at the spineless jelly fish in our
universities (22 universities and counting) who don't consider that
Einstein's being disproved justifies having such fact communicated to
students! You have allowed yourself to be snowed by all of the pomp
and circumstance, and the wasteful rituals of book learning. See how
much any of it means to you in a year or so. Oh, you've keep boasting
how much you... "know", but that will only impress the gullible. The
value of a life is in the productivity of its labors. Where is the
productivity in teaching that which will be quickly forgotten?

Since you have no experience with physics or where physics is used, I
don't see the point in explaining why you are wrong except to say that
you don't know what you are talking about.


(25.) Eric lies if it suits him. That's a flaw in his now
questionable character.

Lying is a skill like any other. One must practice to keep it in top
form.


(26.) That is 60% of ALL textbooks. Physics is just the tip of the
iceberg!

What was the last textbook whose exercises you worked?


(27.) For starters, I was always someone who liked to think for
myself. Your desire to understand my motives suggests you don't know
about a thing called: principle.

Are you seven years old? No.

Did you not know that physics existed until seven years ago? No.

It's hard to claim principle when you just decided one day that
PHYSICS MUST CHANGE.

Fighting for principles is something
one does because it is right, not because of any anger over a breakup,

Thinking it is right doesn't make it right.

knock on the head, or mental illness. You on the other hand have a
desire to surpass that is motivated by your inferiority complex, being
compensated by projecting an image of superiority. Because I'm
threatening your fragile ego, you, and others see arguing me down as
your calling. Well, my truths are their own best defense. I reply to
you, mainly, because there are naïve readers of the newsgroups who
judge "truths" by a contest of verbal belligerence. Have you won any
such contests with me fellow?

I wasn't aware this was a contest. What can I win?


(28.) Abraham Lincoln was considered to be an educated man. In large
measure he was self taught. The best observers of nature are those
not biased by the errant explanations of others. Much of my views on
education come from having had relatives employed by universities. I

Oh. So you don't have any /actual/ experience in university. You're
just basing all your rants off of what your relatives tell you.

commuted to college with a professor who often talked about the highly
politicized cultures where he worked. And, I am a keen observer of
human nature. I put up with education, because that was what I was
expected to prove that I could do. Conservatively, four years of my
journey from grade one could have been weeded out. The productivity
of the USA would improve greatly if "smart people" graduate college at
age 18.

It'd help if you knew what higher education actually taught.


Schooling is mainly a system of babysitting while parents are
working. And it is a public works program for employing teachers. My
disproving Einstein has nothing to do with my disdain for the holier
than thou cultures in education. All things will change, in their own
time.

Sure, but not by any effort of yours.


(29.) Eric, you are a coward. If you had been at the Alamo, you
would not have crossed that line in the sand, nor fought for the
right, till death. Rather, you would have disappeared over the wall;
returned to your warm bed; and forever made fun of those who had
enough conviction to fight for a just cause. You are a huge waste of
a person.

You don't know me yet you seem rather sure of not only what I'd do,
but what I'd say afterwards. Interesting.


(30.) Like the coward that you are, again you lie, rather than admit
that I have disproved Einstein. Your flawed Jewish ego just won't let
you admit that you have ever been less than perfect. You will go to
your grave, being this boastful, but less than perfect, little man.

Is "Jewish" code for "atheist" ?

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